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(2) Some digital music for pure Timex 2048.

2 messages · 2009-03-31 → 2009-04-01 · Yahoo Group era · View archive on archive.org

Participants: Fghbdh Dfudytbutyubyt, zxbruno

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1. Re: [ts2068] (2) Some digital music for pure Timex 2048.

Fghbdh Dfudytbutyubyt · Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:33

>I'm sure Mr Beep will explain in detail, but this was done with the 
>beeper in a Timex TC2048, not with an AY chip!
>Fred
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That's true, TC2048 has no AY on-board (they are available, in standard of Spectrum128, but only as external AY interfaces). 
Anyway, here is the TAP file: 
http://mister_beep.republika.pl/COSMIC_Escape.TAP
(sadly without the intro, but all the rest still exist in the TAP). 
I still don't know if and how it works on TS2068 though. :( 
Anyway, computer plays 3 independent digital audio channels but mixed from one (software mixing) and the quality is 1-bit. 
If anybody could convert OUT commands from ZX128 standard to TS2068 standard - then the song could play from TS's AY chip with quality of 4bit. Then it wouldn't be software mixing btw, but real 3 channels. 
There is an old music-editor to make these songs and if anybody's interested in cracking it and changing into TS2068 AY standard - I can give you a link to the program. 
Greetings. :) 
MB

2. Re: (2) Some digital music for pure Timex 2048.

zxbruno · Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:09

Hi again. Here's some info provided by Mike, author of EightyOne:

128k spectrum 1.7734 MHz
Timex 1.764 MHz
ZON-X 1.625 MHz
Fuller 1.625 MHz
QuickSilva 0.8125MHz

As you can see, the Spectrum and Timex are quite close, whereas the ZX81 boards use a slightly slower clock - probably as a result of the spectrum using a 7MHz crystal and the ZX81 6.5MHz.

The list shows the clock frequency used by the AY chip on each computer and interface. As for which ports to use, I would probably check the TS2068 manual. Maybe someone here in the group remembers, or you could PM the user 'Alcoholic Anonymous' and ask him. I think he's one of the people who hacked (or knows how to hack) games to make AY stuff (that was meant for the 128K Spectrum) work on TS2068s.

--- In [email], Fghbdh Dfudytbutyubyt <mister_beep1@...> wrote:
>
> 
> >I'm sure Mr Beep will explain in detail, but this was done with the 
> >beeper in a Timex TC2048, not with an AY chip!
> >Fred
> -----------------
> That's true, TC2048 has no AY on-board (they are available, in standard of Spectrum128, but only as external AY interfaces). 
> Anyway, here is the TAP file: 
> http://mister_beep.republika.pl/COSMIC_Escape.TAP
> (sadly without the intro, but all the rest still exist in the TAP). 
> I still don't know if and how it works on TS2068 though. :( 
> Anyway, computer plays 3 independent digital audio channels but mixed from one (software mixing) and the quality is 1-bit. 
> If anybody could convert OUT commands from ZX128 standard to TS2068 standard - then the song could play from TS's AY chip with quality of 4bit. Then it wouldn't be software mixing btw, but real 3 channels. 
> There is an old music-editor to make these songs and if anybody's interested in cracking it and changing into TS2068 AY standard - I can give you a link to the program. 
> Greetings. :) 
> MB
>

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