Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
5 messages · 2016-11-12 → 2016-11-17 · Yahoo Group era · View archive on archive.org
Participants: Dan Schenk, Rod H, Eduardo Fuentes, Marvio Botticelli, Scott A. Rossell
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1. Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
Dan Schenk · Sat, 12 Nov 2016 14:00
First, I have to apologize to Eduardo. You gave some insight and direction, back in the beginning of February, to troubleshoot the loss of the Beep from one of my 2068s. Eduardo, thank you and I am sorry I didn't reply. As I stated, the Beep stopped working on the 2068 I was using and rather than working on it I simply pulled out another 2068 I had in storage and continued working. I do plan on going back to try to fix it so I may be coming back here to pick your brain again.
Now for the new subject. Does anyone know if any of the items in the subject line are still available? I stumbled across some old (2010) conversations between a few people, of which one individual, David Leech (then current owner), had documentation for Byte-Back equipment. I emailed one individual who was requesting similar info I am looking for but I haven't yet gotten a response from him.
The reason I ask is because I have an 8 year old grandson who has expressed an interest in robotics. He has recently joined a local 4-H club who sponsors, among many areas, a robotics division. We have started discusions about several things we can do and laying out the differnt projects on paper. I have one BB-1 expansion module but fear we will need more than just 8 I/O. I would prefer to buy completed modules but I realize that probably is not available. We can assemble the boards if printed boards are available, and if necessay we can print the boards only if the artwork is available but would really prefer the first scenario.
Any help or direction you can offer us would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan
2. Re: [ts2068] Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
Rod H · Sat, 12 Nov 2016 21:27
Hello Dan,
I have 3 of the BB-1 units and the docs for them. I've sent you a direct email.
Rod
________________________________
From: [email] <[email]> on behalf of Dan Schenk [email] [ts2068] <[email]>
Sent: 12 November 2016 06:00
To: [email]
Subject: [ts2068] Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
First, I have to apologize to Eduardo. You gave some insight and direction, back in the beginning of February, to troubleshoot the loss of the Beep from one of my 2068s. Eduardo, thank you and I am sorry I didn't reply. As I stated, the Beep stopped working on the 2068 I was using and rather than working on it I simply pulled out another 2068 I had in storage and continued working. I do plan on going back to try to fix it so I may be coming back here to pick your brain again.
Now for the new subject. Does anyone know if any of the items in the subject line are still available? I stumbled across some old (2010) conversations between a few people, of which one individual, David Leech (then current owner), had documentation for Byte-Back equipment. I emailed one individual who was requesting similar info I am looking for but I haven't yet gotten a response from him.
The reason I ask is because I have an 8 year old grandson who has expressed an interest in robotics. He has recently joined a local 4-H club who sponsors, among many areas, a robotics division. We have started discusions about several things we can do and laying out the differnt projects on paper. I have one BB-1 expansion module but fear we will need more than just 8 I/O. I would prefer to buy completed modules but I realize that probably is not available. We can assemble the boards if printed boards are available, and if necessay we can print the boards only if the artwork is available but would really prefer the first scenario.
Any help or direction you can offer us would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan
3. Re: [ts2068] Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
Eduardo Fuentes · Thu, 17 Nov 2016 01:05
Hi Dan,No need to apologize.
Regards,Eduardo.
De: "Dan Schenk [email] [ts2068]" <[email]>
Para: [email]
Enviado: Sábado, 12 de noviembre, 2016 11:00:00
Asunto: [ts2068] Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
First, I have to apologize to Eduardo. You gave some insight and direction, back in the beginning of February, to troubleshoot the loss of the Beep from one of my 2068s. Eduardo, thank you and I am sorry I didn't reply. As I stated, the Beep stopped working on the 2068 I was using and rather than working on it I simply pulled out another 2068 I had in storage and continued working. I do plan on going back to try to fix it so I may be coming back here to pick your brain again.
Now for the new subject. Does anyone know if any of the items in the subject line are still available? I stumbled across some old (2010) conversations between a few people, of which one individual, David Leech (then current owner), had documentation for Byte-Back equipment. I emailed one individual who was requesting similar info I am looking for but I haven't yet gotten a response from him.
The reason I ask is because I have an 8 year old grandson who has expressed an interest in robotics. He has recently joined a local 4-H club who sponsors, among many areas, a robotics division. We have started discusions about several things we can do and laying out the differnt projects on paper. I have one BB-1 expansion module but fear we will need more than just 8 I/O. I would prefer to buy completed modules but I realize that probably is not available. We can assemble the boards if printed boards are available, and if necessay we can print the boards only if the artwork is available but would really prefer the first scenario.
Any help or direction you can offer us would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan
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4. Re: [ts2068] Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
Marvio Botticelli · Thu, 17 Nov 2016 13:57
Dan,
You are planning on using the 2068 to somehow control your robot? I know it would be a cool project, if a little anachronistic. At this point in the game would it not be more practical to use one of the hundreds of "computer on a board" there are out there, a lot of them have ready made interfaces just for motor I/O.
Not as exciting, for sure, because all you do is put two little boards together and do a bit of programming, but if this is a project for your grandson, and he is really interested in the field, this would help him a lot more than trying to figure out how to make really old hardware do the same thing...
Just my two cents
Marvio
________________________________
From: [email] <[email]> on behalf of Eduardo Fuentes [email] [ts2068] <[email]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:05 PM
To: [email]
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
Hi Dan,
No need to apologize.
Regards,
Eduardo.
________________________________
De: "Dan Schenk [email] [ts2068]" <[email]>
Para: [email]
Enviado: Sábado, 12 de noviembre, 2016 11:00:00
Asunto: [ts2068] Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
First, I have to apologize to Eduardo. You gave some insight and direction, back in the beginning of February, to troubleshoot the loss of the Beep from one of my 2068s. Eduardo, thank you and I am sorry I didn't reply. As I stated, the Beep stopped working on the 2068 I was using and rather than working on it I simply pulled out another 2068 I had in storage and continued working. I do plan on going back to try to fix it so I may be coming back here to pick your brain again.
Now for the new subject. Does anyone know if any of the items in the subject line are still available? I stumbled across some old (2010) conversations between a few people, of which one individual, David Leech (then current owner), had documentation for Byte-Back equipment. I emailed one individual who was requesting similar info I am looking for but I haven't yet gotten a response from him.
The reason I ask is because I have an 8 year old grandson who has expressed an interest in robotics. He has recently joined a local 4-H club who sponsors, among many areas, a robotics division. We have started discusions about several things we can do and laying out the differnt projects on paper. I have one BB-1 expansion module but fear we will need more than just 8 I/O. I would prefer to buy completed modules but I realize that probably is not available. We can assemble the boards if printed boards are available, and if necessay we can print the boards only if the artwork is available but would really prefer the first scenario.
Any help or direction you can offer us would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan
5. Re: [ts2068] Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
Scott A. Rossell · Thu, 17 Nov 2016 09:19
Marvio makes a good point. If you wanted an inexpensive modern solution
with BASIC language control of the I/O ports for analog and digital
interfacing, you could get a $35 Raspberry Pi 3 and run Fuze BASIC for
free. It's not Sinclair BASIC, but it's pretty close.
Of course, achieving the same thing with a T/S 2068 and a BB-1 would be
next level, old school, kind of epic in the face of modern tech - like a
gentlemanly glove slap in the face from 30 years in the past.
I celebrate your efforts either way! :@)
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at T09:08:50Z, Marvio Botticelli
[email] [ts2068] ([email]) wrote:
Dan,
You are planning on using the 2068 to somehow control your robot? I know it
would be a cool project, if a little anachronistic. At this point in the
game would it not be more practical to use one of the hundreds of "computer
on a board" there are out there, a lot of them have ready made interfaces
just for motor I/O.
Not as exciting, for sure, because all you do is put two little boards
together and do a bit of programming, but if this is a project for your
grandson, and he is really interested in the field, this would help him a
lot more than trying to figure out how to make really old hardware do the
same thing...
Just my two cents
Marvio
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*From:* [email] <[email]> on behalf of
Eduardo Fuentes [email] [ts2068] <[email]>
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:05 PM
*To:* [email]
*Subject:* Re: [ts2068] Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
Hi Dan,
No need to apologize.
Regards,
Eduardo.
------------------------------
*De:* "Dan Schenk [email] [ts2068]" <[email]>
*Para:* [email]
*Enviado:* Sábado, 12 de noviembre, 2016 11:00:00
*Asunto:* [ts2068] Byte-Back BB-1 or BB-68
First, I have to apologize to Eduardo. You gave some insight and
direction, back in the beginning of February, to troubleshoot the loss of
the Beep from one of my 2068s. Eduardo, thank you and I am sorry I didn't
reply. As I stated, the Beep stopped working on the 2068 I was using and
rather than working on it I simply pulled out another 2068 I had in storage
and continued working. I do plan on going back to try to fix it so I may
be coming back here to pick your brain again.
Now for the new subject. Does anyone know if any of the items in the
subject line are still available? I stumbled across some old (2010)
conversations between a few people, of which one individual, David Leech
(then current owner), had documentation for Byte-Back equipment. I emailed
one individual who was requesting similar info I am looking for but I
haven't yet gotten a response from him.
The reason I ask is because I have an 8 year old grandson who has expressed
an interest in robotics. He has recently joined a local 4-H club who
sponsors, among many areas, a robotics division. We have started
discusions about several things we can do and laying out the differnt
projects on paper. I have one BB-1 expansion module but fear we will need
more than just 8 I/O. I would prefer to buy completed modules but I
realize that probably is not available. We can assemble the boards if
printed boards are available, and if necessay we can print the boards only
if the artwork is available but would really prefer the first scenario.
Any help or direction you can offer us would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan