Digest Number 1345
2 messages · 2019-10-17 → 2019-10-17 · Yahoo Group era · View archive on archive.org
Participants: David Ellis, Phoebus R Dokos
Preserved from the Timex/Sinclair 2068 Yahoo Group (2001–2019), which is no longer online. Text reproduced from the archive.org archive; email addresses masked.
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1. Re: [ts2068] Digest Number 1345
David Ellis · Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:20
Yeah, the Yahoo thing was to be expected. They'll likely redirect ppl to channels where you have to pay subscribe to store stuff.
Has anyone found a viable converter to get the 2068 output to one or more of: VGA/DVI/HDMI/DPORT yet? I'm talking about an adapter to convert composite to one of those, no playing with circuits inside to reroute the video out.
~\_/~\_O Burmese
On Thursday, October 17, 2019, 12:50:43 AM CDT, [email] <[email]> wrote:
Timex Sinclair 2068 Group
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Digest #1345 1 Yahoo Groups shutting down many/most features by "Russ Perry Jr." [email] 2 Yahoo Groups going away by factus10 3a Re: TS2068 / TS 1000 BASIC Compatibly by "Luis Alberto D'Ardis" museonet
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Yahoo Groups shutting down many/most features
Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Russ Perry Jr." [email]
Just in case anyone here is still active, or at least cares about the content here, read this:
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html
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Yahoo Groups going away
Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
factus10
Hi everyone,
In case you had not heard:
"Yahoo has made the decision to no longer allow users to upload content to the Yahoo Groups site. Beginning October 21, you won't be able to upload any more content to the site, and as of December 14 all previously posted content on the site will be permanently removed. You'll have until that date to save anything you've uploaded."
I'd like to move all the files and photos somewhere permanent, like archive.org. Does anyone have any objections?
And, does anyone have an interest in recreating this somewhere else? Any suggestions?
Thanks!
David
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Re: TS2068 / TS 1000 BASIC Compatibly
Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Luis Alberto D'Ardis" museonet
Hii group!! may be you can be interested in this, i don't know if this works straight but may be somebody with more knowledge than me do a conversion for Timex Snclair 2068 Computers.
ZX81 EMULATOR FOR ZX SPECTRUM 48K
https://www.zx81.nl/dload/emulators/zxspectrum/
ZX81 EMULATOR FOR ZX SPECTRUM 128K
http://www.fruitcake.plus.com/Sinclair/Interface2/Cartridges/Interface2_RC_New_ZX81.htm
cheers!!
El 3/9/19 a las 22:07, Chris Nystrom [email]<mailto:[email]> [ts2068] escribió:
Actually I think it is a bigger shame that Timer did not stick with the TS2000, instead of the TS2068 and make it as close to Spectrum compatible as possible. With twister cards and emulator cartridges it seems that would have been easy to do. The advantage of compatibility would have far greater than the small technical advantages. In the end in forced them out of the market.
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 3:29 PM Adam Trionfo [email]<mailto:[email]> [ts2068] <[email]<mailto:[email]>> wrote:
Thanks for answering my questions, guys. I guess it isn't a loss that the T/S 2000 series can't take direct advantage of the earlier programs.. Those programs all would have been B&W and silent anyway. I see on YouTube videos that many people use their 2068 to run Spectrum software via the emulator cart (which I do have). I've always thought that it was a shame that the 2068's extra features never were used extensively.
I've had the urge to unbox and use my TS/2068 since looking closely through my classic computer book collection over the last few weeks. I have more Timex/Sinclair/Z80 books than I remembered. I may make a video which features them all (or at least some of the more interesting ones).
Adam
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From: [email]<mailto:[email]> <[email]<mailto:[email]>> on behalf of Fredrick Meunier [email]<mailto:[email]> [ts2068] <[email]<mailto:[email]>>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 5:27 PM
To: [email]<mailto:[email]>
Subject: Re: [ts2068] TS2068 / TS 1000 BASIC Compatibly
Hi Adam,
On 19 Jul 2019, at 01:34, Adam Trionfo [email]<mailto:[email]> [ts2068] <[email]<mailto:[email]>> wrote:
Is the Timex/Sinclair version of BASIC 100% backward-compatible with the BASIC that is in the Timex/Sinclair 1000? That is, if I were to type in a TS 1000 BASIC program that didn't use any machine language subroutines (if that's even possible to do from BASIC from the TS 1000), would it work?
No, while the TS2068 BASIC is a evolution of the TS1000 BASIC the syntax and keywords are slightly different as well as having some differences based on the hardware (like losing SLOW and FAST modes) and different graphic symbols. With a bit of effort many programs can be adapted for the newer machine though..
Also, can a TS2068 natively load TS 1000 programs from "tape," well, my computer' s sound card?
The tape encoding schemes are quite different so you can’t directly load TS 1000 tapes into a TS2068. You could write a program to read the raw data but the programs would still need adapting.
Fred
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2. Re: [ts2068] Digest Number 1345
Phoebus R Dokos · Fri, 18 Oct 2019 01:58
There’s something if you have a twister board and an RPi0
Phoebus R Dokos, BSc MIS
System/Next Maintainer
ZX Spectum Next Team
> On Oct 17, 2019, at 23:06, David Ellis [email] [ts2068] <[email]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Yeah, the Yahoo thing was to be expected. They'll likely redirect ppl to channels where you have to pay subscribe to store stuff.
>
> Has anyone found a viable converter to get the 2068 output to one or more of: VGA/DVI/HDMI/DPORT yet? I'm talking about an adapter to convert composite to one of those, no playing with circuits inside to reroute the video out.
>
> ~\_/~\_O Burmese
>
>
> On Thursday, October 17, 2019, 12:50:43 AM CDT, [email] <[email]> wrote:
>
>
> Timex Sinclair 2068 Group
> 3 Messages Digest #1345
> 1 Yahoo Groups shutting down many/most features by "Russ Perry Jr." [email]
> 2 Yahoo Groups going away by factus10
> 3a Re: TS2068 / TS 1000 BASIC Compatibly by "Luis Alberto D'Ardis" museonet
> Messages
> 1 Yahoo Groups shutting down many/most features
> Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Russ Perry Jr." [email]
> Just in case anyone here is still active, or at least cares about the content here, read this:
>
> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html
> --
> //*==================================================================++
> || Russ Perry Jr 2175 S Tonne Dr #114 Arlington Heights IL 60005 ||
> || 847-952-9729 VIDEOGAME COLLECTOR! [email] ||
> ++========== ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ==*//
>
> Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (1) . Top ^
> 2 Yahoo Groups going away
> Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by: factus10
> Hi everyone,
>
>
> In case you had not heard:
> "Yahoo has made the decision to no longer allow users to upload content to the Yahoo Groups site. Beginning October 21, you won't be able to upload any more content to the site, and as of December 14 all previously posted content on the site will be permanently removed. You'll have until that date to save anything you've uploaded."
>
>
> I'd like to move all the files and photos somewhere permanent, like archive.org. Does anyone have any objections?
>
>
> And, does anyone have an interest in recreating this somewhere else? Any suggestions?
>
>
> Thanks!
> David
>
> Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (1) . Top ^
> 3a Re: TS2068 / TS 1000 BASIC Compatibly
> Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Luis Alberto D'Ardis" museonet
>
>
> Hii group!! may be you can be interested in this, i don't know if this works straight but may be somebody with more knowledge than me do a conversion for Timex Snclair 2068 Computers.
>
>
> ZX81 EMULATOR FOR ZX SPECTRUM 48K
> https://www.zx81.nl/dload/emulators/zxspectrum/
>
> ZX81 EMULATOR FOR ZX SPECTRUM 128K
> http://www.fruitcake.plus.com/Sinclair/Interface2/Cartridges/Interface2_RC_New_ZX81.htm
>
>
> cheers!!
>
>
> El 3/9/19 a las 22:07, Chris Nystrom [email]<mailto:[email]> [ts2068] escribió:
>
>
> Actually I think it is a bigger shame that Timer did not stick with the TS2000, instead of the TS2068 and make it as close to Spectrum compatible as possible. With twister cards and emulator cartridges it seems that would have been easy to do. The advantage of compatibility would have far greater than the small technical advantages. In the end in forced them out of the market.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 3:29 PM Adam Trionfo [email]<mailto:[email]> [ts2068] <[email]<mailto:[email]>> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for answering my questions, guys. I guess it isn't a loss that the T/S 2000 series can't take direct advantage of the earlier programs.. Those programs all would have been B&W and silent anyway. I see on YouTube videos that many people use their 2068 to run Spectrum software via the emulator cart (which I do have). I've always thought that it was a shame that the 2068's extra features never were used extensively.
>
> I've had the urge to unbox and use my TS/2068 since looking closely through my classic computer book collection over the last few weeks. I have more Timex/Sinclair/Z80 books than I remembered. I may make a video which features them all (or at least some of the more interesting ones).
>
> Adam
>
> ________________________________
> From: [email]<mailto:[email]> <[email]<mailto:[email]>> on behalf of Fredrick Meunier [email]<mailto:[email]> [ts2068] <[email]<mailto:[email]>>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 5:27 PM
> To: [email]<mailto:[email]>
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] TS2068 / TS 1000 BASIC Compatibly
>
>
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> On 19 Jul 2019, at 01:34, Adam Trionfo [email]<mailto:[email]> [ts2068] <[email]<mailto:[email]>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Is the Timex/Sinclair version of BASIC 100% backward-compatible with the BASIC that is in the Timex/Sinclair 1000? That is, if I were to type in a TS 1000 BASIC program that didn't use any machine language subroutines (if that's even possible to do from BASIC from the TS 1000), would it work?
>
> No, while the TS2068 BASIC is a evolution of the TS1000 BASIC the syntax and keywords are slightly different as well as having some differences based on the hardware (like losing SLOW and FAST modes) and different graphic symbols. With a bit of effort many programs can be adapted for the newer machine though..
>
>
> Also, can a TS2068 natively load TS 1000 programs from "tape," well, my computer' s sound card?
>
> The tape encoding schemes are quite different so you can’t directly load TS 1000 tapes into a TS2068. You could write a program to read the raw data but the programs would still need adapting.
>
> Fred
>
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