ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
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1. ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Louis Florit · Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:11
This is on ebay - I am not the seller - pretty neat!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Timex-Sinclair-2068-Larken-Disk-Drive-System-w-disks_W0QQitemZ270559709842QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efe9d8a92
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2. Re: [ts2068] ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Don Dindang · Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:51
It is a Aerco Disk System, not a Larken.
>
--- On Tue, 4/13/10, Louis Florit <[email]> wrote:
From: Louis Florit <[email]>
Subject: [ts2068] ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
To: [email]
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 3:11 PM
This is on ebay - I am not the seller - pretty neat!
http://cgi.ebay. com/Timex- Sinclair- 2068-Larken- Disk-Drive- System-w- disks_W0QQitemZ2 70559709842QQcmd ZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_ 0?hash=item3efe9 d8a92
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3. Re: [ts2068] ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Keith Watson · Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:38
It is an Aerco Disk System with a SPDT switch addition (in the upper right corner of AERCO board) to make it work as a Larken Disk system as long as the included LKDOS cartridge is plugged in to the game port and the switch is in the proper position. Otherwise it works as an AERCO system. This one is like mine except it looks like a 64k version and mine is a 256k AERCO system.
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Dindang
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
It is a Aerco Disk System, not a Larken.
>
--- On Tue, 4/13/10, Louis Florit <[email]> wrote:
From: Louis Florit <[email]>
Subject: [ts2068] ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
To: [email]
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 3:11 PM
This is on ebay - I am not the seller - pretty neat!
http://cgi.ebay. com/Timex- Sinclair- 2068-Larken- Disk-Drive- System-w- disks_W0QQitemZ2 70559709842QQcmd ZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_ 0?hash=item3efe9 d8a92
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4. Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
zxbruno · Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:22
Well, here I go again with my point of view...
Did anyone think of what we might be gaining or losing from this current auction? If the winner is one of us and cares about the rest of the group, we will finally have a working copy of Logicall available for download. The software is so rare that not even the author knows where to find it! I know because I maintain phone contact with him, and he gave me full permission to share his work online. Who knows what else might on those disks, or if the contents of those eproms has been preserved, or if those manuals have been preserved?
Some collectors say "I have that", but they never scan anything, never share anything, there are no schematics, no diagrams, nothing. When they're gone, it's all gone. Maybe they don't even use the thing. It's there, gathering dust, they can say "I won the auction!" but no one can share their joy, because no one else has it!
Here is an opportunity to finally learn how the Aerco DD worked, what Logicall was, and to share dozens of pieces of history, all from the same auction. But I fear that it will end up in someone's storage or attic, someone who doesn't care one bit about "preservation efforts".
If I had the funds I would buy it and make sure everything is done right. Schematics would be created, things could be re-created. Unfortunately, this time, I have no way of doing it. If I had one bit of credit left on a credit card I would gladly do it for all of you.
--- In [email], "Keith Watson" <keithwatson@...> wrote:
>
> It is an Aerco Disk System with a SPDT switch addition (in the upper right corner of AERCO board) to make it work as a Larken Disk system as long as the included LKDOS cartridge is plugged in to the game port and the switch is in the proper position. Otherwise it works as an AERCO system. This one is like mine except it looks like a 64k version and mine is a 256k AERCO system.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Dindang
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
>
>
>
> It is a Aerco Disk System, not a Larken.
>
> >
>
> --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Louis Florit <florit@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Louis Florit <florit@...>
> Subject: [ts2068] ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
> To: [email]
> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 3:11 PM
>
>
>
> This is on ebay - I am not the seller - pretty neat!
>
> http://cgi.ebay. com/Timex- Sinclair- 2068-Larken- Disk-Drive- System-w- disks_W0QQitemZ2 70559709842QQcmd ZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_ 0?hash=item3efe9 d8a92
>
> -Louis
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5. RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Adam Trionfo · Fri, 16 Apr 2010 07:21
zxbruno wrote:
>>
If the winner is one of us and cares about the rest of the group
>>
Even if the winner is "one of us," that doesn't necessitate that they must share what they have paid money for. I like to see programs and paperwork archived, but the owner is the one that has the right to share if they want to share. Just because they own it doesn't mean that they HAVE to have their collection archived.
That being said, I've found that nearly everyone I've ever contacted (in the Bally / Astrocade community) has been very kind about contributing to having their collection archived. It gives them a sense of pride to give back to a community that they feel they are part of. Still, there are a few folks that have paid lots of money for items and they want the value to stay high, so they purposely don't allow their items to be archived. Also, some people don't want to risk their items being archived. For instance, sending EPROMs to a stranger to be dumped or allowing paperwork out of their own hands to be scanned can be a risky prospect for any collector. You can't blame them; they don't want to lose what belongs to them.
>>
Some collectors say "I have that", but they never scan anything, never share anything
>>
This is their right. Having an attitude that everything should be "shared" sort of defeats the purpose of one person winning an auction. The only way that I can see this "sharing" work out is if everyone in this message group chipped in some money to contribute to winning the auction. In this case, THEN there would be a claim to share what is part of the auction. This has been done before. I've split up a Bally / Astrocade lot with someone on the Bally message board so that a HUGE collection (now, formally called the Bob Fabris Collection) could be archived. The collection cost each of us quite a bit of money, but to me it was worth it. The two of us bought the collection with the express purpose of archiving anything that wasn't archived yet (which is a lot!). It's been slow going, but that one collection alone will keep the two of us busy for years to come (and we actually both spend quite a bit of time with it).
Time. That's the real key. Some people don't have the time to archive. They can enjoy their collection once in a while (even if it DOES collect dust in the meantime), but they simply don't have the time to archive it themselves or even to be bothered to send other people part of their collection to archive. This frustrates some people, but really there is nothing that can be done about it. There is already enough T/S 2068 material archived to last a person the rest of their life using it. Does it make a difference if a bit of it goes unarchived for a while? I take the long view. Unless an item is a prototype, then another copy or version, no matter how rare, will eventually come along eventually that person WILL be willing to have it archived. In the meantime, sit back, relax, and enjoy what HAS been archived so far, or archive other material that IS available.
>>
It's there, gathering dust, they can say "I won the auction!" but no one can share their joy, because no one else has it!
>>
Unless some people gather together to purchase an item, then they don't own part of it, nor do they even have a right to share it. If my neighbor buys a big-screen TV and I want to watch a movie on it when they are not using it, they don't have to let me. Heck, would that even make SENSE?
I disagree about not sharing at part of the joy when a rare item is sold. When someone purchases it, it keeps the item out of a landfill. That is a very good thing. Someone gets to USE the item. Heck, even if they DON'T use it, the item is at LEAST collecting dust and that's better then being run over and compacted down in the dirt by a bulldozer. Chances are high that if the item ISN'T used, then it will be auctioned off again before too long.
>>
If I had the funds I would buy [the disk system] and make sure everything is done right.
>>
There is no reason that funds can't be raised by this group. If you feel that strongly about it, and others do too, then there really should be no trouble getting enough money together to purchase the item. If the money CAN'T be raised, then that probably means that, as a whole, the message group doesn't feel the same way about the disk system as you do.
Adam
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6. RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Bill Loguidice · Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:35
I agree with everything you said, Adam. Not that it matters, but I'm one of
the bidders. It's unlikely I'll win, but if I do, there shouldn't be any
issues with archiving if someone is able to offer me assistance in the
how-to part of it.
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From: [email] [mailto:[email]] On Behalf Of
Adam Trionfo
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:21 AM
To: TS 2068 Yahoogroup
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System
w/ disks
zxbruno wrote:
>>
If the winner is one of us and cares about the rest of the group
>>
Even if the winner is "one of us," that doesn't necessitate that they must
share what they have paid money for. I like to see programs and paperwork
archived, but the owner is the one that has the right to share if they want
to share. Just because they own it doesn't mean that they HAVE to have
their collection archived.
That being said, I've found that nearly everyone I've ever contacted (in the
Bally / Astrocade community) has been very kind about contributing to having
their collection archived. It gives them a sense of pride to give back to a
community that they feel they are part of. Still, there are a few folks
that have paid lots of money for items and they want the value to stay high,
so they purposely don't allow their items to be archived. Also, some people
don't want to risk their items being archived. For instance, sending EPROMs
to a stranger to be dumped or allowing paperwork out of their own hands to
be scanned can be a risky prospect for any collector. You can't blame them;
they don't want to lose what belongs to them.
>>
Some collectors say "I have that", but they never scan anything, never share
anything
>>
This is their right. Having an attitude that everything should be "shared"
sort of defeats the purpose of one person winning an auction. The only way
that I can see this "sharing" work out is if everyone in this message group
chipped in some money to contribute to winning the auction. In this case,
THEN there would be a claim to share what is part of the auction. This has
been done before. I've split up a Bally / Astrocade lot with someone on the
Bally message board so that a HUGE collection (now, formally called the Bob
Fabris Collection) could be archived. The collection cost each of us quite
a bit of money, but to me it was worth it. The two of us bought the
collection with the express purpose of archiving anything that wasn't
archived yet (which is a lot!). It's been slow going, but that one
collection alone will keep the two of us busy for years to come (and we
actually both spend quite a bit of time with it).
Time. That's the real key. Some people don't have the time to archive.
They can enjoy their collection once in a while (even if it DOES collect
dust in the meantime), but they simply don't have the time to archive it
themselves or even to be bothered to send other people part of their
collection to archive. This frustrates some people, but really there is
nothing that can be done about it. There is already enough T/S 2068
material archived to last a person the rest of their life using it. Does it
make a difference if a bit of it goes unarchived for a while? I take the
long view. Unless an item is a prototype, then another copy or version, no
matter how rare, will eventually come along eventually that person WILL be
willing to have it archived. In the meantime, sit back, relax, and enjoy
what HAS been archived so far, or archive other material that IS available.
>>
It's there, gathering dust, they can say "I won the auction!" but no one can
share their joy, because no one else has it!
>>
Unless some people gather together to purchase an item, then they don't own
part of it, nor do they even have a right to share it. If my neighbor buys
a big-screen TV and I want to watch a movie on it when they are not using
it, they don't have to let me. Heck, would that even make SENSE?
I disagree about not sharing at part of the joy when a rare item is sold.
When someone purchases it, it keeps the item out of a landfill. That is a
very good thing. Someone gets to USE the item. Heck, even if they DON'T
use it, the item is at LEAST collecting dust and that's better then being
run over and compacted down in the dirt by a bulldozer. Chances are high
that if the item ISN'T used, then it will be auctioned off again before too
long.
>>
If I had the funds I would buy [the disk system] and make sure everything is
done right.
>>
There is no reason that funds can't be raised by this group. If you feel
that strongly about it, and others do too, then there really should be no
trouble getting enough money together to purchase the item. If the money
CAN'T be raised, then that probably means that, as a whole, the message
group doesn't feel the same way about the disk system as you do.
Adam
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7. Re: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Keith Watson · Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:12
Hi,
I'm not sure if you were writing for the benefit of the group or for yourself about how the AERCO FD-68 Interface worked. But, if you are curious about the AERCO click on the link below:
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/aerco.htm
It was written a long time ago when I was very engaged with the AERCO firmware and modifying the last AERCO version of it (v9.0) so it could be Spectrum and OS-64 compatible.
Sadly, I didn't use the Larken LKDOS cartridge enough to get really familiar with it and never had a copy of Logicall to use so I can't help in those areas.
Regards,
Keith Watson
zxbruno wrote:
>>
Here is an opportunity to finally learn how the Aerco DD worked, what Logicall was, and to share dozens of pieces of history, all from the same auction.
>>
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8. Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
zxbruno · Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:07
It's always for the benefit of the group. Thanks for the information!
Can you please, at some point, tell us more about the time you did these things for Aerco? Where you an employee or where you just writing software for them?
The "history books" and the internet have a large grey area when it comes to details of companies that produced add-ons for the Sinclair. Anything that you can say about those days is extremely valuable to me.
--- In [email], "Keith Watson" <keithwatson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure if you were writing for the benefit of the group or for yourself about how the AERCO FD-68 Interface worked. But, if you are curious about the AERCO click on the link below:
>
> http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/aerco.htm
>
>
> It was written a long time ago when I was very engaged with the AERCO firmware and modifying the last AERCO version of it (v9.0) so it could be Spectrum and OS-64 compatible.
>
> Sadly, I didn't use the Larken LKDOS cartridge enough to get really familiar with it and never had a copy of Logicall to use so I can't help in those areas.
>
> Regards,
>
> Keith Watson
>
>
> zxbruno wrote:
> >>
> Here is an opportunity to finally learn how the Aerco DD worked, what Logicall was, and to share dozens of pieces of history, all from the same auction.
> >>
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9. Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
zxbruno · Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:24
--- In [email], Adam Trionfo <ballyalley@...> wrote:
>
>
> zxbruno wrote:
> >>
> If the winner is one of us and cares about the rest of the group
> >>
>
> Even if the winner is "one of us," that doesn't necessitate that they must share what they have paid money for. I like to see programs and paperwork archived, but the owner is the one that has the right to share if they want to share. Just because they own it doesn't mean that they HAVE to have their collection archived.
Of course not. That's just the way I feel. I feel so compelled to preserve things that when it's not possible I feel I failed and lost an opportunity.
>
> Also, some people don't want to risk their items being archived. For instance, sending EPROMs to a stranger to be dumped or allowing paperwork out of their own hands to be scanned can be a risky prospect for any collector. You can't blame them; they don't want to lose what belongs to them.
Agreed. But who's the stranger? People who have sent things to me can tell you how responsible I am, and people who I have worked with (in Spain, U.K. and Portugal) have also been very responsible about everything. They're not strangers anymore. They're my friends.
You see, once you start getting involved with certain people in the Sinclair world, you make friends for life. It's perfectly normal for us to borrow things from each other, each one pays shipping one-way, exchange things, etc.
>
> >>
> Some collectors say "I have that", but they never scan anything, never share anything
> >>
>
> This is their right. Having an attitude that everything should be "shared" sort of defeats the purpose of one person winning an auction.
It appears you and maybe some other collectors care a lot about the financial value of the items. I'm a Sinclair collector myself but to me the sentimental value is more important. I don't care if the value of an interface, book or adapter decreases. I don't buy things thinking that one day I might sell it and might want top dollar for it. I care about having it, and care about making sure other people can find more information about it if they need it. Different people, different minds I guess. :)
But you made some valid points and it's good to see someone else's point of view.
> >>
> If I had the funds I would buy [the disk system] and make sure everything is done right.
> >>
>
> There is no reason that funds can't be raised by this group. If you feel that strongly about it, and others do too, then there really should be no trouble getting enough money together to purchase the item. If the money CAN'T be raised, then that probably means that, as a whole, the message group doesn't feel the same way about the disk system as you do.
>
> Adam
I feel strongly about it, but not enough to justify asking people to raise funds. And you're right that to some people this disk system might not even look interesting or usable.
The auction will end (or already ended) but life goes on.
10. Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
zxbruno · Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:26
How far away from California are you? :) If you do win the auction and need assistance, please let us know. Good luck!
--- In [email], "Bill Loguidice" <bill@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with everything you said, Adam. Not that it matters, but I'm one of
> the bidders. It's unlikely I'll win, but if I do, there shouldn't be any
> issues with archiving if someone is able to offer me assistance in the
> how-to part of it.
>
> ====================================================
> Bill Loguidice, Managing Director
> Armchair Arcade, Inc.
> <http://www.armchairarcade.com/> http://www.armchairarcade.com
> ====================================================
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>
> From: [email] [mailto:[email]] On Behalf Of
> Adam Trionfo
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:21 AM
> To: TS 2068 Yahoogroup
> Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System
> w/ disks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> zxbruno wrote:
> >>
> If the winner is one of us and cares about the rest of the group
> >>
>
> Even if the winner is "one of us," that doesn't necessitate that they must
> share what they have paid money for. I like to see programs and paperwork
> archived, but the owner is the one that has the right to share if they want
> to share. Just because they own it doesn't mean that they HAVE to have
> their collection archived.
>
> That being said, I've found that nearly everyone I've ever contacted (in the
> Bally / Astrocade community) has been very kind about contributing to having
> their collection archived. It gives them a sense of pride to give back to a
> community that they feel they are part of. Still, there are a few folks
> that have paid lots of money for items and they want the value to stay high,
> so they purposely don't allow their items to be archived. Also, some people
> don't want to risk their items being archived. For instance, sending EPROMs
> to a stranger to be dumped or allowing paperwork out of their own hands to
> be scanned can be a risky prospect for any collector. You can't blame them;
> they don't want to lose what belongs to them.
>
> >>
> Some collectors say "I have that", but they never scan anything, never share
> anything
> >>
>
> This is their right. Having an attitude that everything should be "shared"
> sort of defeats the purpose of one person winning an auction. The only way
> that I can see this "sharing" work out is if everyone in this message group
> chipped in some money to contribute to winning the auction. In this case,
> THEN there would be a claim to share what is part of the auction. This has
> been done before. I've split up a Bally / Astrocade lot with someone on the
> Bally message board so that a HUGE collection (now, formally called the Bob
> Fabris Collection) could be archived. The collection cost each of us quite
> a bit of money, but to me it was worth it. The two of us bought the
> collection with the express purpose of archiving anything that wasn't
> archived yet (which is a lot!). It's been slow going, but that one
> collection alone will keep the two of us busy for years to come (and we
> actually both spend quite a bit of time with it).
>
> Time. That's the real key. Some people don't have the time to archive.
> They can enjoy their collection once in a while (even if it DOES collect
> dust in the meantime), but they simply don't have the time to archive it
> themselves or even to be bothered to send other people part of their
> collection to archive. This frustrates some people, but really there is
> nothing that can be done about it. There is already enough T/S 2068
> material archived to last a person the rest of their life using it. Does it
> make a difference if a bit of it goes unarchived for a while? I take the
> long view. Unless an item is a prototype, then another copy or version, no
> matter how rare, will eventually come along eventually that person WILL be
> willing to have it archived. In the meantime, sit back, relax, and enjoy
> what HAS been archived so far, or archive other material that IS available.
>
> >>
> It's there, gathering dust, they can say "I won the auction!" but no one can
> share their joy, because no one else has it!
> >>
>
> Unless some people gather together to purchase an item, then they don't own
> part of it, nor do they even have a right to share it. If my neighbor buys
> a big-screen TV and I want to watch a movie on it when they are not using
> it, they don't have to let me. Heck, would that even make SENSE?
>
> I disagree about not sharing at part of the joy when a rare item is sold.
> When someone purchases it, it keeps the item out of a landfill. That is a
> very good thing. Someone gets to USE the item. Heck, even if they DON'T
> use it, the item is at LEAST collecting dust and that's better then being
> run over and compacted down in the dirt by a bulldozer. Chances are high
> that if the item ISN'T used, then it will be auctioned off again before too
> long.
>
> >>
> If I had the funds I would buy [the disk system] and make sure everything is
> done right.
> >>
>
> There is no reason that funds can't be raised by this group. If you feel
> that strongly about it, and others do too, then there really should be no
> trouble getting enough money together to purchase the item. If the money
> CAN'T be raised, then that probably means that, as a whole, the message
> group doesn't feel the same way about the disk system as you do.
>
> Adam
>
> __________________________________________________________
> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with
> Hotmail.
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> &ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5
>
11. RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Bill Loguidice · Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:31
About as far away on land as possible in New Jersey, though I'll be visiting
there next month with the family. Unfortunately, as expected, I didn't win
it. It was one of those things that I knew would get outrageous at the last
minute. In actuality, it went for less than I thought it might.
====================================================
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Armchair Arcade, Inc.
<http://www.armchairarcade.com> http://www.armchairarcade.com
====================================================
Authored Books: <http://www.armchairarcade.com/books>
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From: [email] [mailto:[email]] On Behalf Of
zxbruno
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:27 AM
To: [email]
Subject: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/
disks
How far away from California are you? :) If you do win the auction and need
assistance, please let us know. Good luck!
--- In [email] <mailto:ts2068%40yahoogroups.com> , "Bill
Loguidice" <bill@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with everything you said, Adam. Not that it matters, but I'm one
of
> the bidders. It's unlikely I'll win, but if I do, there shouldn't be any
> issues with archiving if someone is able to offer me assistance in the
> how-to part of it.
>
> ====================================================
> Bill Loguidice, Managing Director
> Armchair Arcade, Inc.
> <http://www.armchairarcade.com/> http://www.armchairarcade.com
> ====================================================
> Authored Books: <http://www.armchairarcade.com/books>
> http://www.armchairarcade.com/books
> Film: <http://www.armchairarcade.com/film>
> http://www.armchairarcade.com/film
> ====================================================
> LinkedIn: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/billloguidice>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/billloguidice
> ====================================================
>
>
>
> From: [email] <mailto:ts2068%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[email] <mailto:ts2068%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
> Adam Trionfo
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:21 AM
> To: TS 2068 Yahoogroup
> Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive
System
> w/ disks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> zxbruno wrote:
> >>
> If the winner is one of us and cares about the rest of the group
> >>
>
> Even if the winner is "one of us," that doesn't necessitate that they must
> share what they have paid money for. I like to see programs and paperwork
> archived, but the owner is the one that has the right to share if they
want
> to share. Just because they own it doesn't mean that they HAVE to have
> their collection archived.
>
> That being said, I've found that nearly everyone I've ever contacted (in
the
> Bally / Astrocade community) has been very kind about contributing to
having
> their collection archived. It gives them a sense of pride to give back to
a
> community that they feel they are part of. Still, there are a few folks
> that have paid lots of money for items and they want the value to stay
high,
> so they purposely don't allow their items to be archived. Also, some
people
> don't want to risk their items being archived. For instance, sending
EPROMs
> to a stranger to be dumped or allowing paperwork out of their own hands to
> be scanned can be a risky prospect for any collector. You can't blame
them;
> they don't want to lose what belongs to them.
>
> >>
> Some collectors say "I have that", but they never scan anything, never
share
> anything
> >>
>
> This is their right. Having an attitude that everything should be "shared"
> sort of defeats the purpose of one person winning an auction. The only way
> that I can see this "sharing" work out is if everyone in this message
group
> chipped in some money to contribute to winning the auction. In this case,
> THEN there would be a claim to share what is part of the auction. This has
> been done before. I've split up a Bally / Astrocade lot with someone on
the
> Bally message board so that a HUGE collection (now, formally called the
Bob
> Fabris Collection) could be archived. The collection cost each of us quite
> a bit of money, but to me it was worth it. The two of us bought the
> collection with the express purpose of archiving anything that wasn't
> archived yet (which is a lot!). It's been slow going, but that one
> collection alone will keep the two of us busy for years to come (and we
> actually both spend quite a bit of time with it).
>
> Time. That's the real key. Some people don't have the time to archive.
> They can enjoy their collection once in a while (even if it DOES collect
> dust in the meantime), but they simply don't have the time to archive it
> themselves or even to be bothered to send other people part of their
> collection to archive. This frustrates some people, but really there is
> nothing that can be done about it. There is already enough T/S 2068
> material archived to last a person the rest of their life using it. Does
it
> make a difference if a bit of it goes unarchived for a while? I take the
> long view. Unless an item is a prototype, then another copy or version, no
> matter how rare, will eventually come along eventually that person WILL be
> willing to have it archived. In the meantime, sit back, relax, and enjoy
> what HAS been archived so far, or archive other material that IS
available.
>
> >>
> It's there, gathering dust, they can say "I won the auction!" but no one
can
> share their joy, because no one else has it!
> >>
>
> Unless some people gather together to purchase an item, then they don't
own
> part of it, nor do they even have a right to share it. If my neighbor buys
> a big-screen TV and I want to watch a movie on it when they are not using
> it, they don't have to let me. Heck, would that even make SENSE?
>
> I disagree about not sharing at part of the joy when a rare item is sold.
> When someone purchases it, it keeps the item out of a landfill. That is a
> very good thing. Someone gets to USE the item. Heck, even if they DON'T
> use it, the item is at LEAST collecting dust and that's better then being
> run over and compacted down in the dirt by a bulldozer. Chances are high
> that if the item ISN'T used, then it will be auctioned off again before
too
> long.
>
> >>
> If I had the funds I would buy [the disk system] and make sure everything
is
> done right.
> >>
>
> There is no reason that funds can't be raised by this group. If you feel
> that strongly about it, and others do too, then there really should be no
> trouble getting enough money together to purchase the item. If the money
> CAN'T be raised, then that probably means that, as a whole, the message
> group doesn't feel the same way about the disk system as you do.
>
> Adam
>
> __________________________________________________________
> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with
> Hotmail.
> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar
> <http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar
<http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID2
> &ocid=PID2
> 8326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5>
> &ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5
>
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02:31:00
12. RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Oscar Arthur Koepke · Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:20
That's bad news for all of us.
I hope(HOPE) we all had the chance to get ourseves a way to have the possibility of own(replicate the original) some of these systems like Larken, Oliger(These I heard great thing about it) or these AERCO (a new one for me...).
Here in Brazil there is an active group in Yahoo groups called TK90X(ZXspectrum clone) that is making arrangments to make 40 units of the beta disk(beta48) interface (called NE2001, that works with the brazillian clone, because the original beta disk int. does not work with it, had to have the rom changed to the original zxspeccy48kb) for some members of these group, all of them gathered to make it possible. That had already been done 2 years ago with the 'Multiface 1', and maybe the next will be the 'beta 128' because some members of these goup have a speccy 128k(oy +2 or even a +3) that we all want to see been used, not just stored on some box. One of our members(victor Trucco) have also made a floppy disk emulator(with PIC tecnology, nd SD card) that works with many systems (like msx,spectrum(beta),amiga, and will be working soon for appleII+).
Thes kind of partnership is always welcome.
sorry about the bad english.
Oscar
So let's keep the faith. Maybe in the near future...
Oscar
--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Bill Loguidice <[email]> wrote:
From: Bill Loguidice <[email]>
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
To: [email]
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 11:31 AM
About as far away on land as
possible in New Jersey, though I’ll be visiting there next month with the
family. Unfortunately, as expected, I didn’t win it. It was one of those things
that I knew would get outrageous at the last minute. In actuality, it went for
less than I thought it might.
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
Bill Loguidice, Managing Director
Armchair Arcade, Inc.
http://www.armchair arcade.com
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
Authored Books: http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books
Film: http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
From:
ts2068@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ts2068@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of zxbruno
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:27 AM
To: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System
w/ disks
How far away from California are you? :) If you
do win the auction and need assistance, please let us know. Good luck!
--- In ts2068@yahoogroups. com,
"Bill Loguidice" <bill@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with everything you said, Adam. Not that it matters, but I'm one
of
> the bidders. It's unlikely I'll win, but if I do, there shouldn't be any
> issues with archiving if someone is able to offer me assistance in the
> how-to part of it.
>
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> Bill Loguidice, Managing Director
> Armchair Arcade, Inc.
> <http://www.armchair arcade.com/>
http://www.armchair arcade.com
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> Authored Books: <http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books>
> http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books
> Film: <http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film>
> http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> LinkedIn: <http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice>
> http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
>
>
>
> From: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
[mailto:ts2068@yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of
> Adam Trionfo
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:21 AM
> To: TS 2068 Yahoogroup
> Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive
System
> w/ disks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> zxbruno wrote:
> >>
> If the winner is one of us and cares about the rest of the group
> >>
>
> Even if the winner is "one of us," that doesn't necessitate that
they must
> share what they have paid money for. I like to see programs and paperwork
> archived, but the owner is the one that has the right to share if they
want
> to share. Just because they own it doesn't mean that they HAVE to have
> their collection archived.
>
> That being said, I've found that nearly everyone I've ever contacted (in
the
> Bally / Astrocade community) has been very kind about contributing to
having
> their collection archived. It gives them a sense of pride to give back to
a
> community that they feel they are part of. Still, there are a few folks
> that have paid lots of money for items and they want the value to stay
high,
> so they purposely don't allow their items to be archived. Also, some
people
> don't want to risk their items being archived. For instance, sending
EPROMs
> to a stranger to be dumped or allowing paperwork out of their own hands to
> be scanned can be a risky prospect for any collector. You can't blame
them;
> they don't want to lose what belongs to them.
>
> >>
> Some collectors say "I have that", but they never scan anything,
never share
> anything
> >>
>
> This is their right. Having an attitude that everything should be
"shared"
> sort of defeats the purpose of one person winning an auction. The only way
> that I can see this "sharing" work out is if everyone in this
message group
> chipped in some money to contribute to winning the auction. In this case,
> THEN there would be a claim to share what is part of the auction. This has
> been done before. I've split up a Bally / Astrocade lot with someone on
the
> Bally message board so that a HUGE collection (now, formally called the
Bob
> Fabris Collection) could be archived. The collection cost each of us quite
> a bit of money, but to me it was worth it. The two of us bought the
> collection with the express purpose of archiving anything that wasn't
> archived yet (which is a lot!). It's been slow going, but that one
> collection alone will keep the two of us busy for years to come (and we
> actually both spend quite a bit of time with it).
>
> Time. That's the real key. Some people don't have the time to archive.
> They can enjoy their collection once in a while (even if it DOES collect
> dust in the meantime), but they simply don't have the time to archive it
> themselves or even to be bothered to send other people part of their
> collection to archive. This frustrates some people, but really there is
> nothing that can be done about it. There is already enough T/S 2068
> material archived to last a person the rest of their life using it. Does
it
> make a difference if a bit of it goes unarchived for a while? I take the
> long view. Unless an item is a prototype, then another copy or version, no
> matter how rare, will eventually come along eventually that person WILL be
> willing to have it archived. In the meantime, sit back, relax, and enjoy
> what HAS been archived so far, or archive other material that IS
available.
>
> >>
> It's there, gathering dust, they can say "I won the auction!" but
no one can
> share their joy, because no one else has it!
> >>
>
> Unless some people gather together to purchase an item, then they don't
own
> part of it, nor do they even have a right to share it. If my neighbor buys
> a big-screen TV and I want to watch a movie on it when they are not using
> it, they don't have to let me. Heck, would that even make SENSE?
>
> I disagree about not sharing at part of the joy when a rare item is sold.
> When someone purchases it, it keeps the item out of a landfill. That is a
> very good thing. Someone gets to USE the item. Heck, even if they DON'T
> use it, the item is at LEAST collecting dust and that's better then being
> run over and compacted down in the dirt by a bulldozer. Chances are high
> that if the item ISN'T used, then it will be auctioned off again before
too
> long.
>
> >>
> If I had the funds I would buy [the disk system] and make sure everything
is
> done right.
> >>
>
> There is no reason that funds can't be raised by this group. If you feel
> that strongly about it, and others do too, then there really should be no
> trouble getting enough money together to purchase the item. If the money
> CAN'T be raised, then that probably means that, as a whole, the message
> group doesn't feel the same way about the disk system as you do.
>
> Adam
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with
> Hotmail.
> http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend ar
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13. Re: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Keith Watson · Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:36
I was simply an AERCO customer that spent a lot of money on their hardware starting around 1986 or 1987. I did call them several times for help to access the FD-68 extra banks of memory with machine code. I believe two brothers named Jerry and Til (or Till) owned the company and were very helpful whenever I called for support.
Keith Watson
zxbruno wrote:
>>
Can you please, at some point, tell us more about the time you did these things for Aerco? Where you an employee or where you just writing software for them?
>>
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14. RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Luis Alberto D'Ardis · Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:54
good news 4 all of us!! i won the Aerco system, now i'm waiting for item's arrival, all the info will be uploaded to this group, god save the queen!!
pd: sorry for the delay.
kind kind regards!!!
Atte: Luis Alberto D'Ardis. DGGI Dirección General de Gestión Informática Ministerio del Interior Presidencia de la Nación.
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:20:47 -0700
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
That's bad news for all of us.
I hope(HOPE) we all had the chance to get ourseves a way to have the possibility of own(replicate the original) some of these systems like Larken, Oliger(These I heard great thing about it) or these AERCO (a new one for me...).
Here in Brazil there is an active group in Yahoo groups called TK90X(ZXspectrum clone) that is making arrangments to make 40 units of the beta disk(beta48) interface (called NE2001, that works with the brazillian clone, because the original beta disk int. does not work with it, had to have the
rom changed to the original zxspeccy48kb) for some members of these group, all of them gathered to make it possible. That had already been done 2 years ago with the 'Multiface 1', and maybe the next will be the 'beta 128' because some members of these goup have a speccy 128k(oy +2 or even a +3) that we all want to see been used, not just stored on some box. One of our members(victor Trucco) have also made a floppy disk emulator(with PIC tecnology, nd SD card) that works with many systems (like msx,spectrum(beta),amiga, and will be working soon for appleII+).
Thes kind of partnership is always welcome.
sorry about the bad english.
Oscar
So let's keep the faith. Maybe in the near future...
Oscar
--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Bill Loguidice <[email]> wrote:
From: Bill Loguidice <[email]>
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
To: [email]
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 11:31 AM
About as far away on land as
possible in New Jersey, though I’ll be visiting there next month with the
family. Unfortunately, as expected, I didn’t win it. It was one of those things
that I knew would get outrageous at the last minute. In actuality, it went for
less than I thought it might.
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
Bill Loguidice, Managing Director
Armchair Arcade, Inc.
http://www.armchair arcade.com
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
Authored Books: http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books
Film: http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
From:
ts2068@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ts2068@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of zxbruno
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:27 AM
To: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System
w/ disks
How far away from California are you? :) If you
do win the auction and need assistance, please let us know. Good luck!
--- In ts2068@yahoogroups. com,
"Bill Loguidice" <bill@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with everything you said, Adam. Not that it matters, but I'm one
of
> the bidders. It's unlikely I'll win, but if I do, there shouldn't be any
> issues with archiving if someone is able to offer me assistance in the
> how-to part of it.
>
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> Bill Loguidice, Managing Director
> Armchair Arcade, Inc.
> <http://www.armchair arcade.com/>
http://www.armchair arcade.com
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> Authored Books: <http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books>
> http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books
> Film: <http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film>
> http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> LinkedIn: <http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice>
> http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
>
>
>
> From: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
[mailto:ts2068@yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of
> Adam Trionfo
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:21 AM
> To: TS 2068 Yahoogroup
> Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive
System
> w/ disks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> zxbruno wrote:
> >>
> If the winner is one of us and cares about the rest of the group
> >>
>
> Even if the winner is "one of us," that doesn't necessitate that
they must
> share what they have paid money for. I like to see programs and paperwork
> archived, but the owner is the one that has the right to share if they
want
> to share. Just because they own it doesn't mean that they HAVE to have
> their collection archived.
>
> That being said, I've found that nearly everyone I've ever contacted (in
the
> Bally / Astrocade community) has been very kind about contributing to
having
> their collection archived. It gives them a sense of pride to give back to
a
> community that they feel they are part of. Still, there are a few folks
> that have paid lots of money for items and they want the value to stay
high,
> so they purposely don't allow their items to be archived. Also, some
people
> don't want to risk their items being archived. For instance, sending
EPROMs
> to a stranger to be dumped or allowing paperwork out of their own hands to
> be scanned can be a risky prospect for any collector. You can't blame
them;
> they don't want to lose what belongs to them.
>
> >>
> Some collectors say "I have that", but they never scan anything,
never share
> anything
> >>
>
> This is their right. Having an attitude that everything should be
"shared"
> sort of defeats the purpose of one person winning an auction. The only way
> that I can see this "sharing" work out is if everyone in this
message group
> chipped in some money to contribute to winning the auction. In this case,
> THEN there would be a claim to share what is part of the auction. This has
> been done before. I've split up a Bally / Astrocade lot with someone on
the
> Bally message board so that a HUGE collection (now, formally called the
Bob
> Fabris Collection) could be archived. The collection cost each of us quite
> a bit of money, but to me it was worth it. The two of us bought the
> collection with the express purpose of archiving anything that wasn't
> archived yet (which is a lot!). It's been slow going, but that one
> collection alone will keep the two of us busy for years to come (and we
> actually both spend quite a bit of time with it).
>
> Time. That's the real key. Some people don't have the time to archive.
> They can enjoy their collection once in a while (even if it DOES collect
> dust in the meantime), but they simply don't have the time to archive it
> themselves or even to be bothered to send other people part of their
> collection to archive. This frustrates some people, but really there is
> nothing that can be done about it. There is already enough T/S 2068
> material archived to last a person the rest of their life using it. Does
it
> make a difference if a bit of it goes unarchived for a while? I take the
> long view. Unless an item is a prototype, then another copy or version, no
> matter how rare, will eventually come along eventually that person WILL be
> willing to have it archived. In the meantime, sit back, relax, and enjoy
> what HAS been archived so far, or archive other material that IS
available.
>
> >>
> It's there, gathering dust, they can say "I won the auction!" but
no one can
> share their joy, because no one else has it!
> >>
>
> Unless some people gather together to purchase an item, then they don't
own
> part of it, nor do they even have a right to share it. If my neighbor buys
> a big-screen TV and I want to watch a movie on it when they are not using
> it, they don't have to let me. Heck, would that even make SENSE?
>
> I disagree about not sharing at part of the joy when a rare item is sold.
> When someone purchases it, it keeps the item out of a landfill. That is a
> very good thing. Someone gets to USE the item. Heck, even if they DON'T
> use it, the item is at LEAST collecting dust and that's better then being
> run over and compacted down in the dirt by a bulldozer. Chances are high
> that if the item ISN'T used, then it will be auctioned off again before
too
> long.
>
> >>
> If I had the funds I would buy [the disk system] and make sure everything
is
> done right.
> >>
>
> There is no reason that funds can't be raised by this group. If you feel
> that strongly about it, and others do too, then there really should be no
> trouble getting enough money together to purchase the item. If the money
> CAN'T be raised, then that probably means that, as a whole, the message
> group doesn't feel the same way about the disk system as you do.
>
> Adam
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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15. RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Oscar Arthur Koepke · Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:02
Great news!
Congratulations Luis Alberto......
You just saved(ia about to sabe...) a part of history that few (even fewer that we all think) know about.
Kindly
Oscar Koepke
Brazil
--- On Mon, 4/19/10, Luis Alberto D'Ardis <[email]> wrote:
From: Luis Alberto D'Ardis <[email]>
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
To: [email]
Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 12:54 PM
good news 4 all of us!! i won the Aerco system, now i'm waiting for item's arrival, all the info will be uploaded to this group, god save the queen!!
pd: sorry for the delay.
kind kind regards!!!
Atte: Luis Alberto D'Ardis. DGGI Dirección General de Gestión Informática Ministerio del Interior Presidencia de la Nación.
To: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
From: oscarkoepke@ yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:20:47 -0700
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
That's bad news for all of us.
I hope(HOPE) we all had the chance to get ourseves a way to have the possibility of own(replicate the original) some of these systems like Larken, Oliger(These I heard great thing about it) or these AERCO (a new one for me...).
Here in Brazil there is an active group in Yahoo groups called TK90X(ZXspectrum clone) that is making arrangments to make 40 units of the beta disk(beta48) interface (called NE2001, that works with the brazillian clone, because the original beta disk int. does not work with it, had to have the
rom changed to the original zxspeccy48kb) for some members of these group, all of them gathered to make it possible. That had already been done 2 years ago with the 'Multiface 1', and maybe the next will be the 'beta 128' because some members of these goup have a speccy 128k(oy +2 or even a +3) that we all want to see been used, not just stored on some box. One of our members(victor Trucco) have also made a floppy disk emulator(with PIC tecnology, nd SD card) that works with many systems (like msx,spectrum( beta),amiga, and will be working soon for appleII+).
Thes kind of partnership is always welcome.
sorry about the bad english.
Oscar
So let's keep the faith. Maybe in the near future...
Oscar
--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Bill Loguidice <bill@armchairarcade .com> wrote:
From: Bill Loguidice <bill@armchairarcade .com>
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
To: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 11:31 AM
About as far away on land as
possible in New Jersey, though I’ll be visiting there next month with the
family. Unfortunately, as expected, I didn’t win it. It was one of those things
that I knew would get outrageous at the last minute. In actuality, it went for
less than I thought it might.
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
Bill Loguidice, Managing Director
Armchair Arcade, Inc.
http://www.armchair arcade.com
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
Authored Books: http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books
Film: http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
From:
ts2068@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ts2068@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of zxbruno
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:27 AM
To: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System
w/ disks
How far away from California are you? :) If you
do win the auction and need assistance, please let us know. Good luck!
--- In ts2068@yahoogroups. com,
"Bill Loguidice" <bill@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with everything you said, Adam. Not that it matters, but I'm one
of
> the bidders. It's unlikely I'll win, but if I do, there shouldn't be any
> issues with archiving if someone is able to offer me assistance in the
> how-to part of it.
>
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> Bill Loguidice, Managing Director
> Armchair Arcade, Inc.
> <http://www.armchair arcade.com/>
http://www.armchair arcade.com
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> Authored Books: <http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books>
> http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books
> Film: <http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film>
> http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> LinkedIn: <http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice>
> http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
>
>
>
> From: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
[mailto:ts2068@yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of
> Adam Trionfo
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:21 AM
> To: TS 2068 Yahoogroup
> Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive
System
> w/ disks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> zxbruno wrote:
> >>
> If the winner is one of us and cares about the rest of the group
> >>
>
> Even if the winner is "one of us," that doesn't necessitate that
they must
> share what they have paid money for. I like to see programs and paperwork
> archived, but the owner is the one that has the right to share if they
want
> to share. Just because they own it doesn't mean that they HAVE to have
> their collection archived.
>
> That being said, I've found that nearly everyone I've ever contacted (in
the
> Bally / Astrocade community) has been very kind about contributing to
having
> their collection archived. It gives them a sense of pride to give back to
a
> community that they feel they are part of. Still, there are a few folks
> that have paid lots of money for items and they want the value to stay
high,
> so they purposely don't allow their items to be archived. Also, some
people
> don't want to risk their items being archived. For instance, sending
EPROMs
> to a stranger to be dumped or allowing paperwork out of their own hands to
> be scanned can be a risky prospect for any collector. You can't blame
them;
> they don't want to lose what belongs to them.
>
> >>
> Some collectors say "I have that", but they never scan anything,
never share
> anything
> >>
>
> This is their right. Having an attitude that everything should be
"shared"
> sort of defeats the purpose of one person winning an auction. The only way
> that I can see this "sharing" work out is if everyone in this
message group
> chipped in some money to contribute to winning the auction. In this case,
> THEN there would be a claim to share what is part of the auction. This has
> been done before. I've split up a Bally / Astrocade lot with someone on
the
> Bally message board so that a HUGE collection (now, formally called the
Bob
> Fabris Collection) could be archived. The collection cost each of us quite
> a bit of money, but to me it was worth it. The two of us bought the
> collection with the express purpose of archiving anything that wasn't
> archived yet (which is a lot!). It's been slow going, but that one
> collection alone will keep the two of us busy for years to come (and we
> actually both spend quite a bit of time with it).
>
> Time. That's the real key. Some people don't have the time to archive.
> They can enjoy their collection once in a while (even if it DOES collect
> dust in the meantime), but they simply don't have the time to archive it
> themselves or even to be bothered to send other people part of their
> collection to archive. This frustrates some people, but really there is
> nothing that can be done about it. There is already enough T/S 2068
> material archived to last a person the rest of their life using it. Does
it
> make a difference if a bit of it goes unarchived for a while? I take the
> long view. Unless an item is a prototype, then another copy or version, no
> matter how rare, will eventually come along eventually that person WILL be
> willing to have it archived. In the meantime, sit back, relax, and enjoy
> what HAS been archived so far, or archive other material that IS
available.
>
> >>
> It's there, gathering dust, they can say "I won the auction!" but
no one can
> share their joy, because no one else has it!
> >>
>
> Unless some people gather together to purchase an item, then they don't
own
> part of it, nor do they even have a right to share it. If my neighbor buys
> a big-screen TV and I want to watch a movie on it when they are not using
> it, they don't have to let me. Heck, would that even make SENSE?
>
> I disagree about not sharing at part of the joy when a rare item is sold.
> When someone purchases it, it keeps the item out of a landfill. That is a
> very good thing. Someone gets to USE the item. Heck, even if they DON'T
> use it, the item is at LEAST collecting dust and that's better then being
> run over and compacted down in the dirt by a bulldozer. Chances are high
> that if the item ISN'T used, then it will be auctioned off again before
too
> long.
>
> >>
> If I had the funds I would buy [the disk system] and make sure everything
is
> done right.
> >>
>
> There is no reason that funds can't be raised by this group. If you feel
> that strongly about it, and others do too, then there really should be no
> trouble getting enough money together to purchase the item. If the money
> CAN'T be raised, then that probably means that, as a whole, the message
> group doesn't feel the same way about the disk system as you do.
>
> Adam
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with
> Hotmail.
> http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend ar
> <http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend ar&ocid=PID2
> 8326::T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5>
> &ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5
>
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16. RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Luis Alberto D'Ardis · Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:01
ty!!! it will be saved!! no doubt!!
Atte: Luis Alberto D'Ardis. DGGI Dirección General de Gestión Informática Ministerio del Interior Presidencia de la Nación.
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:02:09 -0700
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
Great news!
Congratulations Luis Alberto......
You just saved(ia about to sabe...) a part of history that few (even fewer that we all think) know about.
Kindly
Oscar Koepke
Brazil
--- On Mon, 4/19/10, Luis Alberto D'Ardis <[email]> wrote:
From: Luis Alberto D'Ardis <[email]>
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
To: [email]
Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 12:54 PM
good news 4 all of us!! i won the Aerco system, now i'm waiting for item's arrival, all the info will be uploaded to this group, god save the queen!!
pd: sorry for the delay.
kind kind regards!!!
Atte: Luis Alberto D'Ardis. DGGI Dirección General de Gestión Informática Ministerio del Interior Presidencia de la Nación.
To: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
From: oscarkoepke@ yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:20:47 -0700
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
That's bad news for all of us.
I hope(HOPE) we all had the chance to get ourseves a way to have the possibility of own(replicate the original) some of these systems like Larken, Oliger(These I heard great thing about it) or these AERCO (a new one for me...).
Here in Brazil there is an active group in Yahoo groups called TK90X(ZXspectrum clone) that is making arrangments to make 40 units of the beta disk(beta48) interface (called NE2001, that works
with the brazillian clone, because the original beta disk int. does not work with it, had to have the
rom changed to the original zxspeccy48kb) for some members of these group, all of them gathered to make it possible. That had already been done 2 years ago with the 'Multiface 1', and maybe the next will be the 'beta 128' because some members of these goup have a speccy 128k(oy +2 or even a +3) that we all want to see been used, not just stored on some box. One of our members(victor Trucco) have also made a floppy disk emulator(with PIC tecnology, nd SD card) that works with many systems (like msx,spectrum( beta),amiga, and will be working soon for appleII+).
Thes kind of partnership is always
welcome.
sorry about the bad english.
Oscar
So let's keep the faith. Maybe in the near future...
Oscar
--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Bill Loguidice <bill@armchairarcade
.com> wrote:
From: Bill Loguidice <bill@armchairarcade .com>
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System w/ disks
To: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 11:31 AM
About as far away on land as
possible in New Jersey, though I’ll be visiting there next month with the
family. Unfortunately, as expected, I didn’t win it. It was one of those things
that I knew would get outrageous at the last minute. In actuality, it went for
less than I thought it might.
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
Bill Loguidice, Managing Director
Armchair Arcade, Inc.
http://www.armchair arcade.com
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
Authored Books: http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books
Film: http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
From:
ts2068@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ts2068@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of zxbruno
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:27 AM
To: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive System
w/ disks
How far away from California are you? :) If you
do win the auction and need assistance, please let us know. Good luck!
--- In ts2068@yahoogroups. com,
"Bill Loguidice" <bill@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with everything you said, Adam. Not that it matters, but I'm one
of
> the bidders. It's unlikely I'll win, but if I do, there shouldn't be any
> issues with archiving if someone is able to offer me assistance in the
> how-to part of it.
>
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> Bill Loguidice, Managing Director
> Armchair Arcade, Inc.
> <http://www.armchair arcade.com/>
http://www.armchair arcade.com
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> Authored Books: <http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books>
> http://www.armchair arcade.com/ books
> Film: <http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film>
> http://www.armchair arcade.com/ film
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
> LinkedIn: <http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice>
> http://www.linkedin .com/in/billlogu idice
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
>
>
>
> From: ts2068@yahoogroups. com
[mailto:ts2068@yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of
> Adam Trionfo
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:21 AM
> To: TS 2068 Yahoogroup
> Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: ebay: Timex Sinclair 2068 Larken Disk Drive
System
> w/ disks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> zxbruno wrote:
> >>
> If the winner is one of us and cares about the rest of the group
> >>
>
> Even if the winner is "one of us," that doesn't necessitate that
they must
> share what they have paid money for. I like to see programs and paperwork
> archived, but the owner is the one that has the right to share if they
want
> to share. Just because they own it doesn't mean that they HAVE to have
> their collection archived.
>
> That being said, I've found that nearly everyone I've ever contacted (in
the
> Bally / Astrocade community) has been very kind about contributing to
having
> their collection archived. It gives them a sense of pride to give back to
a
> community that they feel they are part of. Still, there are a few folks
> that have paid lots of money for items and they want the value to stay
high,
> so they purposely don't allow their items to be archived. Also, some
people
> don't want to risk their items being archived. For instance, sending
EPROMs
> to a stranger to be dumped or allowing paperwork out of their own hands to
> be scanned can be a risky prospect for any collector. You can't blame
them;
> they don't want to lose what belongs to them.
>
> >>
> Some collectors say "I have that", but they never scan anything,
never share
> anything
> >>
>
> This is their right. Having an attitude that everything should be
"shared"
> sort of defeats the purpose of one person winning an auction. The only way
> that I can see this "sharing" work out is if everyone in this
message group
> chipped in some money to contribute to winning the auction. In this case,
> THEN there would be a claim to share what is part of the auction. This has
> been done before. I've split up a Bally / Astrocade lot with someone on
the
> Bally message board so that a HUGE collection (now, formally called the
Bob
> Fabris Collection) could be archived. The collection cost each of us quite
> a bit of money, but to me it was worth it. The two of us bought the
> collection with the express purpose of archiving anything that wasn't
> archived yet (which is a lot!). It's been slow going, but that one
> collection alone will keep the two of us busy for years to come (and we
> actually both spend quite a bit of time with it).
>
> Time. That's the real key. Some people don't have the time to archive.
> They can enjoy their collection once in a while (even if it DOES collect
> dust in the meantime), but they simply don't have the time to archive it
> themselves or even to be bothered to send other people part of their
> collection to archive. This frustrates some people, but really there is
> nothing that can be done about it. There is already enough T/S 2068
> material archived to last a person the rest of their life using it. Does
it
> make a difference if a bit of it goes unarchived for a while? I take the
> long view. Unless an item is a prototype, then another copy or version, no
> matter how rare, will eventually come along eventually that person WILL be
> willing to have it archived. In the meantime, sit back, relax, and enjoy
> what HAS been archived so far, or archive other material that IS
available.
>
> >>
> It's there, gathering dust, they can say "I won the auction!" but
no one can
> share their joy, because no one else has it!
> >>
>
> Unless some people gather together to purchase an item, then they don't
own
> part of it, nor do they even have a right to share it. If my neighbor buys
> a big-screen TV and I want to watch a movie on it when they are not using
> it, they don't have to let me. Heck, would that even make SENSE?
>
> I disagree about not sharing at part of the joy when a rare item is sold.
> When someone purchases it, it keeps the item out of a landfill. That is a
> very good thing. Someone gets to USE the item. Heck, even if they DON'T
> use it, the item is at LEAST collecting dust and that's better then being
> run over and compacted down in the dirt by a bulldozer. Chances are high
> that if the item ISN'T used, then it will be auctioned off again before
too
> long.
>
> >>
> If I had the funds I would buy [the disk system] and make sure everything
is
> done right.
> >>
>
> There is no reason that funds can't be raised by this group. If you feel
> that strongly about it, and others do too, then there really should be no
> trouble getting enough money together to purchase the item. If the money
> CAN'T be raised, then that probably means that, as a whole, the message
> group doesn't feel the same way about the disk system as you do.
>
> Adam
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with
> Hotmail.
> http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend ar
> <http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend ar&ocid=PID2
> 8326::T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5>
> &ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5
>
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