Please trim the bottom of your posts...
6 messages · 2015-08-12 → 2015-08-12 · Yahoo Group era · View archive on archive.org
Participants: alhartman6, Adam Trionfo, Rod H, Al Hartman, Russ Perry, Jr., Mark J. Blair
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1. Please trim the bottom of your posts...
alhartman6 · 12 Aug 2015 11:08:26 -
This is simple Netiquette...
You folks are replying to posts and leaving a lot of crap at the bottom of your posts. For people getting individual posts, it's not a big deal. But, for those subscribed to the digests, it means they have to scroll through it all to get to the next message.
So, please trim any extraneous stuff off the bottom of your messages.
It all saves people with cell phones and tablets who use data plans from paying for data they don't need.
-[ Al ]-
2. RE: [ts2068] Please trim the bottom of your posts...
Adam Trionfo · Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:49
Al wrote:
>>
This is simple Netiquette... [...] please trim any extraneous stuff off the bottom of your messages.
>>
Everyone has different ideas on this. I actually despise it when people trim-off the post. This is the only group that I belong to that anyone has mentioned this before. I suppose I'll try to do that in the future here.
Adam
3. RE: [ts2068] Please trim the bottom of your posts...
Rod H · Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:24
Sometimes I like to be able to read the prior context so I don't mind the "stuff at the bottom". The question that some forums go on and on about is does one put his reply at the top or the bottom.
Some have the TP come over the top, some from underneath. That's why they make different colored ties.
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Subject: RE: [ts2068] Please trim the bottom of your posts...
Al wrote:
>>
This is simple Netiquette... [...] please trim any extraneous stuff off the bottom of your messages.
>>
Everyone has different ideas on this. I actually despise it when people trim-off the post. This is the only group that I belong to that anyone has mentioned this before. I suppose I'll try to do that in the future here.
Adam
4. Re: [ts2068] Please trim the bottom of your posts...
Al Hartman · Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:41
I asked that junk be trimmed, not useful information. If you notice, I always do this.
If you are a subscriber to digests, which I am. Or, use a cell phone or tablet, which I also am... You appreciate the thoughtfulness of people who make posts as small as possible.
-[ Al ]-
From: Rod H [email] [ts2068]
Sometimes I like to be able to read the prior context so I don't mind the "stuff at the bottom". The question that some forums go on and on about is does one put his reply at the top or the bottom.
Some have the TP come over the top, some from underneath. That's why they make different colored ties.
5. Re: [ts2068] Please trim the bottom of your posts...
Russ Perry, Jr. · Wed, 12 Aug 2015 20:52
Adam Trionfo <[email]> wrote:
>> Al wrote:
>>> This is simple Netiquette... [...] please trim any extraneous
>>> stuff off the bottom of your messages.
>> Everyone has different ideas on this.
I think it depends on how long you've been on the internet (since
1987 for me, though sometimes spottily) and what tools you've used
(newsgroups and old non-Microsoft email clients for example, versus
web forums and Microsoft Outlook)...
>> I actually despise it when people trim-off the post.
I totally disagree -- if you send an email with two questions,
you're often lucky to get ONE answer; people just don't concentrate
enough on what they're reading. So if someone posts a hundred line
screed and you want to reply to one sentence, you should only include
the one thing they said that you're responding to. It's all the
context that's needed most of the time. The problem is, people
barely take the time to read -- are they going to take the time to
edit too?
A LOT of it can be blamed on Microsoft for them inventing (maybe?),
or at least "popularizing" (i.e. forcing) top-posting in email
replies. Why is it bad? A demonstration, if you will...
A. Because it breaks the flow of conversation.
Q. Why is top-posting bad?
Interstitial responses are the clearest, but essentially require
editing (and good marking, via the ">" symbols you see here, one
per response level), so on one hand people are too lazy to edit,
and on the other hand you have Microsoft aiding and abetting by
just pushing the original email(s) down so you can (1) not edit,
and incidentally (2) forget what all you read and should possibly
be responding to. If you are responding interstitially and editing
as you go, you just happen to be re-reading, and are likely to not
forget or miss things you want to/should respond to!
>> This is the only group that I belong to that anyone has mentioned
>> this before.
I'd laughingly suggest that you're not in enough groups, but I think
that most of us "old-timers"/"lifers" are just sick of trying to fight
the good fight most of the time.--
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6. Re: [ts2068] Please trim the bottom of your posts...
Mark J. Blair · Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:18
> On Aug 12, 2015, at 13:52 , 'Russ Perry, Jr.' [email] [ts2068] <[email]> wrote:
>
> Adam Trionfo <[email]> wrote:
> >> Everyone has different ideas on this.
>
> I think it depends on how long you've been on the internet (since
> 1987 for me, though sometimes spottily) and what tools you've used
> (newsgroups and old non-Microsoft email clients for example, versus
> web forums and Microsoft Outlook)...
Agreed! My first exposure to the internet (primarily usenet at the time) was in 1986, through an 80x24 terminal emulator on my Amiga.
> A. Because it breaks the flow of conversation.
> Q. Why is top-posting bad?
So true. And verbing nouns weirds language. :)
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <[email]>
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