Some digital music for pure Timex 2048.
6 messages · 2009-03-17 → 2009-03-31 · Yahoo Group era · View archive on archive.org
Participants: Fghbdh Dfudytbutyubyt, Adam Trionfo, zxbruno, Fred
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1. Some digital music for pure Timex 2048.
Fghbdh Dfudytbutyubyt · Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:57
Hi there. :)
Enjoy the song fit in 48Kb of RAM. :)
http://z80.i-demo.pl/MISTER_BEEP-Cosmic_Escape.mp3
Stuff in style of KOTO/LaserDance 80s bands. ;)
Also available in TAP file if anybody's interested.
Greetings.
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2. RE: [ts2068] Some digital music for pure Timex 2048.
Adam Trionfo · Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:38
mister_beep1 wrote:
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Enjoy the song fit in 48Kb of RAM. :)
http://z80.i-demo.pl/MISTER_BEEP-Cosmic_Escape.mp3
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I really enjoy chip music. Thanks for uploading this. What system is this recorded from? This music sounds too good to be true for one Spectrum with an AY chip. Come on now, what's the secret?!?
Adam
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3. Re: Some digital music for pure Timex 2048.
zxbruno · Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:09
The AY has always had the capability to play digital samples, but that feature was not documented. A few games like Robocop and Chase HQ used the AY to play digitized speech, but it wasn't until some years (late 90's I think) that someone made a program called Sample tracker. Instead of trying to store digitized audio in a linear way (similar to WAV) and being out of memory after just 2 seconds, there are ways to keep the digital samples in 48K and compile them a certain way to output more than 4 minutes of digital music. :)
If you go to YouTube and search for ZX Spectrum digital music you'll find many examples. Mr Beep and Yerzmyey are the masters of digital music, and they do it all on TC2048s with AY interfaces which were meant for 48K Spectrums but work on TC2048s too. I haven't asked, but I think that all MrBeep did was to change the I/O ports to match the ones used by the AY in the TS2068, thus giving us this masterpiece. :)
The AY can do a lot more than what you've heard in the 80s. Besides digital music, there's also people out there synchronizing 2 Spectrums to play 6-channel music, or joining 2 AY chips in just one Spectrum. The result is something like this:
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/turbo_sound/ay-riders-hung_up_%286_channels_2xay%29.mp3
--- In [email], Adam Trionfo <ballyalley@...> wrote:
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> mister_beep1 wrote:
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> Enjoy the song fit in 48Kb of RAM. :)
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> http://z80.i-demo.pl/MISTER_BEEP-Cosmic_Escape.mp3
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> I really enjoy chip music. Thanks for uploading this. What system is this recorded from? This music sounds too good to be true for one Spectrum with an AY chip. Come on now, what's the secret?!?
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> Adam
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4. Re: [ts2068] Some digital music for pure Timex 2048.
Fred · Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:53
On 19/03/2009, at 1:38, Adam Trionfo wrote:
> mister_beep1 wrote:
>>> Enjoy the song fit in 48Kb of RAM. :)
>>> http://z80.i-demo.pl/MISTER_BEEP-Cosmic_Escape.mp3
>
> I really enjoy chip music. Thanks for uploading this. What system
> is this recorded from? This music sounds too good to be true for
> one Spectrum with an AY chip. Come on now, what's the secret?!?
I'm sure Mr Beep will explain in detail, but this was done with the
beeper in a Timex TC2048, not with an AY chip!
Fred
5. RE: [ts2068] Re: Some digital music for pure Timex 2048.
Adam Trionfo · Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:55
zxspectrum128 wrote:
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The AY has always had the capability to play digital
samples, but that feature was not documented.
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Any idea why such a great feature wouldn't be documented?!?
Perhaps they thought "Who could use it with such a small
amount of RAM?"
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someone made a program called Sample tracker.
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This only works on the Spectrum (or 2068 with emulator
cartridge), I presume.
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If you go to YouTube and search for ZX Spectrum digital music you'll find many examples. Mr Beep and Yerzmyey are the masters of digital music
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Thanks for the tip. I'll have to look into that.
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The AY can do a lot more than what you've heard in the 80s.
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In the 80s I was using a C64 and had NO idea about the AY chip. I knew about the Atari computers back then (in 1985 I was only thirteen years old), but all the other computers were WAY off the radar. If they didn't talk about the computer in Compute!, or Compute!'s Gazette, then I didn't know about them. Wait... I did know about the PCs, Amigas, and Atari ST systems, but they were WAY out of anything I could afford. The only reason that I had a computer was because I worked for a year to save up my money for that C64 system.
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there's also people out there synchronizing 2 Spectrums
to play 6-channel music, or joining 2 AY chips in just
one Spectrum. The result is something like [Hung Up by
AY Riders].
>>
I'm aware of AY Riders. I think it was someone on this board that pointed them out some time back. I downloaded all their music from their web site... which is actually QUITE A LOT. If you're at all a fan of digital music, then you owe it to yourself to check out their website:
http://ay-riders.speccy.cz/
After I downloaded all their music, my fifteen year old son copied all the MP3 albums to his computer because he really likes them. If that isn't a compliment, then I don't know what is!
Adam
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6. Re: [ts2068] Some digital music for pure Timex 2048.
Fghbdh Dfudytbutyubyt · Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:26
> I really enjoy chip music. Thanks for uploading this. What system is this recorded from? This music sounds too good to be true for one Spectrum with an AY chip. Come on now, what's the secret?!?
> Adam
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Hello. :)
Actually it's not AY. :)
It's pure TIMEX 2048 and it's played by tandem Z80&ULA chips. :)
Thanks,
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