Test for a non-working Cartridge?
41 messages · 2011-08-02 → 2011-08-11 · Yahoo Group era · View archive on archive.org
Participants: Jack Boatwright, cheveron, Rod H, Zanarchist, jboatno4, Timex, phlaxen, patohd, 8bit, pxx1_2000_32724, Christopher Blackmon, Richard Burt, Al Hartman, yarek_com, Richard Blue
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1. Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
8bit · Wed, 03 Aug 2011 04:03
What kind of cartridge it is?
Try to enter BASIC command:
OUT 244,3
Jarek Adamski
2. Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Zanarchist · Tue, 2 Aug 2011 19:43:
Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
Thanks,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: [email]
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
What kind of cartridge it is?
Try to enter BASIC command:
OUT 244,3
Jarek Adamski
3. Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Jack Boatwright · Tue, 2 Aug 2011 20:59:
John,
If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
If possible post a photo of your cart.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Zanarchist
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
Thanks,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: [email]
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
What kind of cartridge it is?
Try to enter BASIC command:
OUT 244,3
Jarek Adamski
4. Test for a non-working Cartridge?
phlaxen · Wed, 03 Aug 2011 00:08
Hi, I have a cartridge that don't seem to work. When I plug it in the normal screen just comes up like no cartridge pluged in. I believe I have it pluged correctly. I have three others that work fine. Any ideas on testing or fixing?
Thanks,
John
5. Test for a non-working Cartridge?
phlaxen · Wed, 03 Aug 2011 00:12
Hi, I have a cartridge that don't seem to work. When I plug it in the normal screen just comes up like no cartridge pluged in. I believe I have it pluged correctly. I have three others that work fine. Any ideas on testing or fixing?
Thanks,
John
6. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
cheveron · Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:51
Hi John,
It would be great to get a copy of the contents of the cart. As it boots to BASIC it should be possible to do this using the Timex itself. You'd need to switch off interrupts, page in the various pages of the cart and copy them to RAM and then save the contents to tape, then convert that tape to a .TAP file with an emulator tool. Looking at the tape version (which is about 20K but includes a loading screen) http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=4000054 I'd guess that it uses a 16K ROM. Penetrator uses some BASIC though so the cart probably uses the banks above the screen area (2 and 3 or perhaps 3 and 4). The safest thing to do would be to dump the entire contents of the DOCK bank. If you can deal with loading the program onto the Timex and getting the results onto a PC, I can write the program.
-Andrew
--- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@...> wrote:
> If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
>
> That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
> From: Zanarchist
>
> Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
> Thanks,
> John
7. Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Zanarchist · Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:
Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001 Androids.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Boatwright
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
John,
If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
If possible post a photo of your cart.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Zanarchist
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
Thanks,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: [email]
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
What kind of cartridge it is?
Try to enter BASIC command:
OUT 244,3
Jarek Adamski
8. RE: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Rod H · Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:59:
Perhaps now would be a good time to do an inventory of carts that exist.
The booklet "Winter Issue, Timex Sinclair Computer Software" lists nine "T/S 2000 Command Cartridge" titles:
Crazybugs
The Budgeteer
States & Capitals
Flight Simulator
Pinball
Vu-Calc
Vu-File
Androids
Penetrator
and a title, "Casino I", described as an "Insta-Load Cartridge". I don't know how this cart differs from a Command Cartridge.
I have the first 5 Command Cartridge titles.
We know that Penetrator wasn't released and now we know that zanarchrist has Androids.
Does anyone have Vu-Calc, Vu-File or the Casino 1 cart ?
Rod
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:34 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001
Androids.
John
----- Original Message -----
From:
Jack
Boatwright
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59
PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
John,
If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the
only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs,
then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's
history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it
must have come from a Timex employee.
If possible post a photo of your
cart.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Zanarchist
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43
PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game
cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the
results.
Thanks,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: [email]
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03
PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
What kind of cartridge it is?
Try to enter BASIC command:
OUT
244,3
Jarek
Adamski
9. Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Christopher Blackmon · Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:17:
I just bought the Casino cartridge off of ebay... it's the first one I've managed to acquire.
Christopher.
________________________________
From: Rod H <[email]>
To: [email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Perhaps now would be a good time to do an inventory of carts that exist.
The booklet "Winter Issue, Timex Sinclair Computer Software" lists nine "T/S 2000 Command Cartridge" titles:
Crazybugs
The Budgeteer
States & Capitals
Flight Simulator
Pinball
Vu-Calc
Vu-File
Androids
Penetrator
and a title, "Casino I", described as an "Insta-Load Cartridge". I don't know how this cart differs from a Command Cartridge.
I have the first 5 Command Cartridge titles.
We know that Penetrator wasn't released and now we know that zanarchrist has Androids.
Does anyone have Vu-Calc, Vu-File or the Casino 1 cart ?
Rod
________________________________
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:34 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001
Androids.
John
----- Original Message -----
>From: Jack Boatwright
>To: [email]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
>
>John,
>If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
>
>That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
>
>If possible post a photo of your cart.
>
>Jack
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Zanarchist
>>To: [email]
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
>>Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
>>Thanks,
>>John
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: [email]
>>>To: [email]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>>
>>>
>>>What kind of cartridge it is?
>>>
>>>Try to enter BASIC command:
>>>OUT
244,3
>>>
>>>Jarek
Adamski
>>>
>>>
>>
>
10. Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
jboatno4 · Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:17:
Rod, et al,
VU-Calc, VU-File, Penetrator & Sword Fight were not released. Casino I works the same as the others.
See the 2068 Software List at www.worldofspectrum.org/timex
Jack
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod H <[email]>
Sender: [email]
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:59:08
To: <[email]>
Reply-To: [email]
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Perhaps now would be a good time to do an inventory of carts that exist.
The booklet "Winter Issue, Timex Sinclair Computer Software" lists nine "T/S 2000 Command Cartridge" titles:
Crazybugs
The Budgeteer
States & Capitals
Flight Simulator
Pinball
Vu-Calc
Vu-File
Androids
Penetrator
and a title, "Casino I", described as an "Insta-Load Cartridge". I don't know how this cart differs from a Command Cartridge.
I have the first 5 Command Cartridge titles.
We know that Penetrator wasn't released and now we know that zanarchrist has Androids.
Does anyone have Vu-Calc, Vu-File or the Casino 1 cart ?
Rod
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:34 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001
Androids.
John
----- Original Message -----
From:
Jack
Boatwright
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59
PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
John,
If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the
only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs,
then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's
history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it
must have come from a Timex employee.
If possible post a photo of your
cart.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Zanarchist
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43
PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game
cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the
results.
Thanks,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: [email]
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03
PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
What kind of cartridge it is?
Try to enter BASIC command:
OUT
244,3
Jarek
Adamski
11. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
pxx1_2000_32724 · Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:51
Hi John,
Perhaps not the only Penetrator cartridge. I do recall seeing one here and played it. I didnt notice any bugs, however.
--- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@...> wrote:
>
> John,
> If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
>
> That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
>
> If possible post a photo of your cart.
>
> Jack
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Zanarchist
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> 
>
> Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 8bit@...
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> What kind of cartridge it is?
>
> Try to enter BASIC command:
> OUT 244,3
>
> Jarek Adamski
>
12. Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Zanarchist · Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:59:
These are the four I have:
Flight Simulator
States & Capitals
Crazy bugs
Androids
I don't have any boxes but do have the booklets that came with them.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod H
To: [email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Perhaps now would be a good time to do an inventory of carts that exist.
The booklet "Winter Issue, Timex Sinclair Computer Software" lists nine "T/S 2000 Command Cartridge" titles:
Crazybugs
The Budgeteer
States & Capitals
Flight Simulator
Pinball
Vu-Calc
Vu-File
Androids
Penetrator
and a title, "Casino I", described as an "Insta-Load Cartridge". I don't know how this cart differs from a Command Cartridge.
I have the first 5 Command Cartridge titles.
We know that Penetrator wasn't released and now we know that zanarchrist has Androids.
Does anyone have Vu-Calc, Vu-File or the Casino 1 cart ?
Rod
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:34 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001 Androids.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Boatwright
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
John,
If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
If possible post a photo of your cart.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Zanarchist
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
Thanks,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: [email]
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
What kind of cartridge it is?
Try to enter BASIC command:
OUT 244,3
Jarek Adamski
13. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
cheveron · Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:22
The Timex Computer Corp carts that we have images for (on WoS) are:
Androids
Casino 1
Chess
Crazy Bugs
Flight Simulation
Horace and the Spiders
Hungry Horace
Pro Pinball
States & Capitals
However, Chess, Horace and the Spiders, and Hungry Horace are almost certainly the ports I did of the Spectrum IF2 carts. I ported all 10 IF2 carts and released all the non-Ultimate titles. I also did a 64K cart port of Shadow of the Unicorn. To date I think that's the only 64K cart.
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=4000066
14. Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Richard Burt · Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:14:
Hi to all, I have the Casino I cartridge, haven't played for some time now, the Larken is in the dock. I have been looking for The Budgeteer, Vu-Calc, Vu-File for a long time, no luck. Rick
From: Rod H <[email]>
To: [email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:59:08 PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Perhaps now would be a good time to do an inventory of carts that exist.
The booklet "Winter Issue, Timex Sinclair Computer Software" lists nine "T/S 2000 Command Cartridge" titles:
Crazybugs
The Budgeteer
States & Capitals
Flight Simulator
Pinball
Vu-Calc
Vu-File
Androids
Penetrator
and a title, "Casino I", described as an "Insta-Load Cartridge". I don't know how this cart differs from a Command Cartridge.
I have the first 5 Command Cartridge titles.
We know that Penetrator wasn't released and now we know that zanarchrist has Androids.
Does anyone have Vu-Calc, Vu-File or the Casino 1 cart ?
Rod
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:34 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001 Androids.
John
----- Original Message -----
>From: Jack Boatwright
>To: [email]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
>
>John,
>If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
>
>That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
>
>If possible post a photo of your cart.
>
>Jack
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Zanarchist
>>To: [email]
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
>>Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
>>Thanks,
>>John
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: [email]
>>>To: [email]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>>
>>>
>>>What kind of cartridge it is?
>>>
>>>Try to enter BASIC command:
>>>OUT 244,3
>>>
>>>Jarek Adamski
>>>
>>>
>>
>
15. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Jack Boatwright · Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:59:
Neil,
If you have a Penetrator cart it is from Eric's uncle who worked at Timex Computer Corp. In all my dealings with Eric he never indicated to me that he possessed this cart.
Please post a photo of this cart.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: pxx1_2000_32724
To: [email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 6:51 AM
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi John,
Perhaps not the only Penetrator cartridge. I do recall seeing one here and played it. I didnt notice any bugs, however.
--- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@...> wrote:
>
> John,
> If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
>
> That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
>
> If possible post a photo of your cart.
>
> Jack
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Zanarchist
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> 
>
> Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 8bit@...
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> What kind of cartridge it is?
>
> Try to enter BASIC command:
> OUT 244,3
>
> Jarek Adamski
>
16. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
cheveron · Thu, 04 Aug 2011 07:02
I know Vu-Calc and Vu-File were announced, but I thought the consensus was that they were never released. I'm tempted to recreate them.
--- In [email], Richard Burt <rjburt56@...> wrote:
>
> Hi to all, I have the Casino I cartridge, haven't played for some time now, the Larken is in the dock. I have been looking for The Budgeteer, Vu-Calc, Vu-File for a long time, no luck. Rick
> Â
>
> From: Rod H <rodh64@...>
> To: [email]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:59:08 PM
> Subject: RE: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
> Â
> Perhaps now would be a good time to do an inventory of carts that exist.
> The booklet "Winter Issue, Timex Sinclair Computer Software" lists nine "T/S 2000 Command Cartridge" titles:
> Crazybugs
> The Budgeteer
> States & Capitals
> Flight Simulator
> Pinball
> Vu-Calc
> Vu-File
> Androids
> Penetrator
>
> and a title, "Casino I", described as an "Insta-Load Cartridge". I don't know how this cart differs from a Command Cartridge.
>
> I have the first 5 Command Cartridge titles.
>
> We know that Penetrator wasn't released and now we know that zanarchrist has Androids.
>
> Does anyone have Vu-Calc, Vu-File or the Casino 1 cart ?
>
> Rod
>
>
> To: [email]
> From: zanarchist@...
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:34 -0700
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
> Â
> 
>
> Â Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001 Androids.
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> >From: Jack Boatwright
> >To: [email]
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59 PM
> >Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
> >
> >Â
> >
> >
> >John,
> >If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
> >Â
> >That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
> >Â
> >If possible post a photo of your cart.
> >Â
> >Jack
> >Â
> >Â
> >----- Original Message -----
> >>From: Zanarchist
> >>To: [email]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
> >>
> >>Â
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
> >>Thanks,
> >>John
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: 8bit@...
> >>>To: [email]
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>What kind of cartridge it is?
> >>>
> >>>Try to enter BASIC command:
> >>>OUT 244,3
> >>>
> >>>Jarek Adamski
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
17. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
cheveron · Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:10
Well I managed to reconstruct the Budgeter AROS cart. If the program was not changed for the cartridge release then this version will be functionally identical. I've tested it and it works. Thanks to Johnny Red for the details on how AROS works.
18. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Timex · Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:22:
The merit is not mine. I got the info from someone I can't remember and published on my website :)
Glad someone can work it that info :D
Johnny Red
On Aug 4, 2011, at 9:10 PM, [email] wrote:
> Well I managed to reconstruct the Budgeter AROS cart. If the program was not changed for the cartridge release then this version will be functionally identical. I've tested it and it works. Thanks to Johnny Red for the details on how AROS works.
>
>
>
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19. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
cheveron · Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:24
And I've also managed to make a working Penetrator cart. I suspect Timex was trying to do an AROS version, but the code needs to run in RAM so I created an LROS version that copies the program to 32768 and then jumps to 32765 where there are instructions to page out the DOCK bank. I also NOPed out the instruction to set a blue border and the loop during the key test, so now it goes straight to the fireworks.
20. Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Jack Boatwright · Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:28:
The VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type exists.
Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Burt
To: [email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi to all, I have the Casino I cartridge, haven't played for some time now, the Larken is in the dock. I have been looking for The Budgeteer, Vu-Calc, Vu-File for a long time, no luck. Rick
From: Rod H <[email]>
To: [email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:59:08 PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Perhaps now would be a good time to do an inventory of carts that exist.
The booklet "Winter Issue, Timex Sinclair Computer Software" lists nine "T/S 2000 Command Cartridge" titles:
Crazybugs
The Budgeteer
States & Capitals
Flight Simulator
Pinball
Vu-Calc
Vu-File
Androids
Penetrator
and a title, "Casino I", described as an "Insta-Load Cartridge". I don't know how this cart differs from a Command Cartridge.
I have the first 5 Command Cartridge titles.
We know that Penetrator wasn't released and now we know that zanarchrist has Androids.
Does anyone have Vu-Calc, Vu-File or the Casino 1 cart ?
Rod
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:34 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001 Androids.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Boatwright
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
John,
If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
If possible post a photo of your cart.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Zanarchist
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
Thanks,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: [email]
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
What kind of cartridge it is?
Try to enter BASIC command:
OUT 244,3
Jarek Adamski
21. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
cheveron · Sun, 07 Aug 2011 08:44
Swordfight seems to rely quite heavily on the original ROM. I've created an AROS cart version, but it crashes as soon as it makes the first 'incorrect' ROM call to 1601 (which is 1230 in the Timex ROM). With a debugger that halts when the PC goes to the ROM area it should be possible to fully patch the game to work from tape or cartridge. If anyone fancies having a go I can send them the .dck file in its current state.
Both the VU programs use basic with machine code hooks that live outside the area permitted by the AROS system, so they would have had to have been implemented as LROS cartridges or substantially rewritten. That might explain why they were never released.
--- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@...> wrote:
>
> The VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type exists.
22. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
jboatno4 · Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:06:
You say you hold the 7th cartridge in your hand, which one are you talking about?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: "[email]" <[email]>
Sender: [email]
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:06:03
To: <[email]>
Reply-To: [email]
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Hi, the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the only ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and hold in my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the cartridges all together somewhere in the Web.
But I'd like to know if Timex released a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a TC-2068 official cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg), but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
--- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@...> wrote:
>
> The VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type exists.
>
> Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
>
> Jack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Burt
> To: [email]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
>
> Hi to all, I have the Casino I cartridge, haven't played for some time now, the Larken is in the dock. I have been looking for The Budgeteer, Vu-Calc, Vu-File for a long time, no luck. Rick
>
>
>
> From: Rod H <rodh64@...>
> To: [email]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:59:08 PM
> Subject: RE: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> Perhaps now would be a good time to do an inventory of carts that exist.
> The booklet "Winter Issue, Timex Sinclair Computer Software" lists nine "T/S 2000 Command Cartridge" titles:
> Crazybugs
> The Budgeteer
> States & Capitals
> Flight Simulator
> Pinball
> Vu-Calc
> Vu-File
> Androids
> Penetrator
>
> and a title, "Casino I", described as an "Insta-Load Cartridge". I don't know how this cart differs from a Command Cartridge.
>
> I have the first 5 Command Cartridge titles.
>
> We know that Penetrator wasn't released and now we know that zanarchrist has Androids.
>
> Does anyone have Vu-Calc, Vu-File or the Casino 1 cart ?
>
> Rod
>
>
> To: [email]
> From: zanarchist@...
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:34 -0700
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
> 
>
> Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001 Androids.
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack Boatwright
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> 
>
> John,
> If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
>
> That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
>
> If possible post a photo of your cart.
>
> Jack
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Zanarchist
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> 
>
> Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 8bit@...
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> What kind of cartridge it is?
>
> Try to enter BASIC command:
> OUT 244,3
>
> Jarek Adamski
>
23. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
patohd · Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:06
Hi, the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the only ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and hold in my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the cartridges all together somewhere in the Web.
But I'd like to know if Timex released a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a TC-2068 official cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg), but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
--- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@...> wrote:
>
> The VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type exists.
>
> Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
>
> Jack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Burt
> To: [email]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
>
> Hi to all, I have the Casino I cartridge, haven't played for some time now, the Larken is in the dock. I have been looking for The Budgeteer, Vu-Calc, Vu-File for a long time, no luck. Rick
>
>
>
> From: Rod H <rodh64@...>
> To: [email]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:59:08 PM
> Subject: RE: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> Perhaps now would be a good time to do an inventory of carts that exist.
> The booklet "Winter Issue, Timex Sinclair Computer Software" lists nine "T/S 2000 Command Cartridge" titles:
> Crazybugs
> The Budgeteer
> States & Capitals
> Flight Simulator
> Pinball
> Vu-Calc
> Vu-File
> Androids
> Penetrator
>
> and a title, "Casino I", described as an "Insta-Load Cartridge". I don't know how this cart differs from a Command Cartridge.
>
> I have the first 5 Command Cartridge titles.
>
> We know that Penetrator wasn't released and now we know that zanarchrist has Androids.
>
> Does anyone have Vu-Calc, Vu-File or the Casino 1 cart ?
>
> Rod
>
>
> To: [email]
> From: zanarchist@...
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:34 -0700
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
> 
>
> Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001 Androids.
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack Boatwright
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> 
>
> John,
> If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
>
> That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
>
> If possible post a photo of your cart.
>
> Jack
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Zanarchist
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> 
>
> Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 8bit@...
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> What kind of cartridge it is?
>
> Try to enter BASIC command:
> OUT 244,3
>
> Jarek Adamski
>
24. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Timex · Mon, 8 Aug 2011 21:58:
Timex Computer Corp never released a Spectrum Emulator Cartridge, only Timex of Portugal did it with the TC2068 and as you should know it can't be used on a TS2068 because it doesn't fit (but it works).
Another Cartridge for the 2068 is the TimeWord word processor also released by Timex of Portugal. It doesn't fit too on a TS2068.
Johnny Red
On Aug 8, 2011, at 3:06 PM, [email] wrote:
> Hi, the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the only ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and hold in my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the cartridges all together somewhere in the Web.
> But I'd like to know if Timex released a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a TC-2068 official cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg), but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
>
> --- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@...> wrote:
>>
>> The VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type exists.
>>
>> Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Richard Burt
>> To: [email]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi to all, I have the Casino I cartridge, haven't played for some time now, the Larken is in the dock. I have been looking for The Budgeteer, Vu-Calc, Vu-File for a long time, no luck. Rick
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Rod H <rodh64@...>
>> To: [email]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:59:08 PM
>> Subject: RE: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps now would be a good time to do an inventory of carts that exist.
>> The booklet "Winter Issue, Timex Sinclair Computer Software" lists nine "T/S 2000 Command Cartridge" titles:
>> Crazybugs
>> The Budgeteer
>> States & Capitals
>> Flight Simulator
>> Pinball
>> Vu-Calc
>> Vu-File
>> Androids
>> Penetrator
>>
>> and a title, "Casino I", described as an "Insta-Load Cartridge". I don't know how this cart differs from a Command Cartridge.
>>
>> I have the first 5 Command Cartridge titles.
>>
>> We know that Penetrator wasn't released and now we know that zanarchrist has Androids.
>>
>> Does anyone have Vu-Calc, Vu-File or the Casino 1 cart ?
>>
>> Rod
>>
>>
>> To: [email]
>> From: zanarchist@...
>> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:34 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001 Androids.
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jack Boatwright
>> To: [email]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> John,
>> If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
>>
>> That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
>>
>> If possible post a photo of your cart.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Zanarchist
>> To: [email]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: 8bit@...
>> To: [email]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>> What kind of cartridge it is?
>>
>> Try to enter BASIC command:
>> OUT 244,3
>>
>> Jarek Adamski
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
25. RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Rod H · Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:39:
I'm looking to acquire two TS2068 carts: Androids and Casino I. I can trade Flight Simulator, States&Capitals or Crazy Bugs. If anyone has a spare of either of these and wants any of the others let me know.
Rod
[email]
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 22:14:33 +0000
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
That's right, the 7th cartridge was shown to me and I had it in my hand for a moment. It was the Pinball one. I had the opportunity to see and hold the cartridge, but couldn't buy it at the moment and, therefore, lost the chance. Well, it wasn't the last cartridge at the moment, I had only four titles then.
--- In [email], jboatno4@... wrote:
>
> You say you hold the 7th cartridge in your hand, which one are you talking about?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "patohd@..." <patohd@...>
> Sender: [email]
> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:06:03
> To: <[email]>
> Reply-To: [email]
> Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
> Hi, the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the only ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and hold in my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the cartridges all together somewhere in the Web.
> But I'd like to know if Timex released a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a TC-2068 official cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg), but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
>
> --- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@> wrote:
> >
> > The VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type exists.
> >
> > Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
> >
> > Jack
> >
26. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Jack Boatwright · Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:16:
Johnny Red is correct, the cartridges from TMX Portugal are too thick to fit into the cartrige port of the TS2068. The port has to be enlarged to use them on the US machine.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Johnny Red (Timex)
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Timex Computer Corp never released a Spectrum Emulator Cartridge, only Timex of Portugal did it with the TC2068 and as you should know it can't be used on a TS2068 because it doesn't fit (but it works).
Another Cartridge for the 2068 is the TimeWord word processor also released by Timex of Portugal. It doesn't fit too on a TS2068.
Johnny Red
On Aug 8, 2011, at 3:06 PM, [email] wrote:
> Hi, the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the only ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and hold in my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the cartridges all together somewhere in the Web.
> But I'd like to know if Timex released a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a TC-2068 official cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg), but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
>
> --- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@...> wrote:
>>
>> The VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type exists.
>>
>> Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Richard Burt
>> To: [email]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi to all, I have the Casino I cartridge, haven't played for some time now, the Larken is in the dock. I have been looking for The Budgeteer, Vu-Calc, Vu-File for a long time, no luck. Rick
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Rod H <rodh64@...>
>> To: [email]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:59:08 PM
>> Subject: RE: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps now would be a good time to do an inventory of carts that exist.
>> The booklet "Winter Issue, Timex Sinclair Computer Software" lists nine "T/S 2000 Command Cartridge" titles:
>> Crazybugs
>> The Budgeteer
>> States & Capitals
>> Flight Simulator
>> Pinball
>> Vu-Calc
>> Vu-File
>> Androids
>> Penetrator
>>
>> and a title, "Casino I", described as an "Insta-Load Cartridge". I don't know how this cart differs from a Command Cartridge.
>>
>> I have the first 5 Command Cartridge titles.
>>
>> We know that Penetrator wasn't released and now we know that zanarchrist has Androids.
>>
>> Does anyone have Vu-Calc, Vu-File or the Casino 1 cart ?
>>
>> Rod
>>
>>
>> To: [email]
>> From: zanarchist@...
>> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:11:34 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi, I made an error my cartridge is 07-4001 Androids.
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jack Boatwright
>> To: [email]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> John,
>> If you have the Penetrator cart, you may have the only one in existence as Timex did not release it for sale. It had bugs, then Timex quit the computer business before they were fixed.
>>
>> That may be why it doesn't work. The cart's history would be interesting if you know any of it, my speculation is that it must have come from a Timex employee.
>>
>> If possible post a photo of your cart.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Zanarchist
>> To: [email]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi, It is the 07-4002 Penetrator game cartridge by Timex. I will try the command tomorrow and post the results.
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: 8bit@...
>> To: [email]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ts2068] Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>>
>>
>> What kind of cartridge it is?
>>
>> Try to enter BASIC command:
>> OUT 244,3
>>
>> Jarek Adamski
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
27. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Jack Boatwright · Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:19:
Pinball seems to be a pretty rare cartridge. I've only seen one or two on eBay since 1996. And, it may not exist as a cassette-based program as I've never seen it on cassette. If anyone has this on cassette please let me know.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: [email]
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
That's right, the 7th cartridge was shown to me and I had it in my hand for a moment. It was the Pinball one. I had the opportunity to see and hold the cartridge, but couldn't buy it at the moment and, therefore, lost the chance. Well, it wasn't the last cartridge at the moment, I had only four titles then.
--- In [email], jboatno4@... wrote:
>
> You say you hold the 7th cartridge in your hand, which one are you talking about?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "patohd@..." <patohd@...>
> Sender: [email]
> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:06:03
> To: <[email]>
> Reply-To: [email]
> Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
> Hi, the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the only ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and hold in my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the cartridges all together somewhere in the Web.
> But I'd like to know if Timex released a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a TC-2068 official cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg), but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
>
> --- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@> wrote:
> >
> > The VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type exists.
> >
> > Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
> >
> > Jack
> >
28. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Jack Boatwright · Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:21:
Rod,
Does your Pinball cartridge have a box? I have this cart, and the instructions, but no box for it.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod H
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
I'm looking to acquire two TS2068 carts: Androids and Casino I. I can trade Flight Simulator, States&Capitals or Crazy Bugs. If anyone has a spare of either of these and wants any of the others let me know.
Rod
[email]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 22:14:33 +0000
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
That's right, the 7th cartridge was shown to me and I had it in my hand for a moment. It was the Pinball one. I had the opportunity to see and hold the cartridge, but couldn't buy it at the moment and, therefore, lost the chance. Well, it wasn't the last cartridge at the moment, I had only four titles then.
--- In [email], jboatno4@... wrote:
>
> You say you hold the 7th cartridge in your hand, which one are you talking about?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "patohd@..." <patohd@...>
> Sender: [email]
> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:06:03
> To: <[email]>
> Reply-To: [email]
> Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
> Hi, the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the only ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and hold in my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the cartridges all together somewhere in the Web.
> But I'd like to know if Timex released a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a TC-2068 official cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg), but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
>
> --- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@> wrote:
> >
> > The VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type exists.
> >
> > Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
> >
> > Jack
> >
29. RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Rod H · Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:37:
Jack,
I don't have the Pinball cart in its box, just stacked on the shelf with the others, but I might have the empty box "in storage". All the instructions are in a binder and I probably have them...somewhere.
I might as well tell everyone now that I and Bruno Florindo recently arranged to have the TS gear stored with the late Jay Shepard brought to my place. Jay had previously received the remaining stock from RMG Enterprises after Rod Gowen passed on. Jay also received a few orphans from other TS users and of course had a large collection of TS items himself. In total there were 30 large boxes of TS-related items: TS1000 h/w and s/w, TS2068 h/w and s/w, QL h/w and s/w and even a few things for the Z88 including a nice working Z88. There are also 10 2068s and 4 QLs and even one lonely 1000. Bruno and I intend to offer these items to any TS user who wants the items and only ask for a small amount to reimburse our costs to truck the items to my home in Delta BC from Iowa. In the next day or so we will post a list of the items. Just to whet your appetite, as we're talking about TS2068 carts, there are about 35 carts of various titles amongst the items. Bruno and I have no intention of "making a profit" but only desire to give this stuff a good home rather than see it go to the landfill. Hopefully we will recover our costs. Stay tuned.
Rod
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:21:24 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Rod,
Does your Pinball cartridge have a box? I
have this cart, and the instructions, but no box for it.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From:
Rod H
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:39
PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
I'm looking to acquire two TS2068 carts: Androids and Casino
I. I can trade Flight Simulator, States&Capitals or Crazy
Bugs. If anyone has a spare of either of these and wants any of the
others let me know.
Rod
[email]
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011
22:14:33 +0000
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working
Cartridge?
That's right, the 7th cartridge was shown to me and I had
it in my hand for a moment. It was the Pinball one. I had the opportunity to
see and hold the cartridge, but couldn't buy it at the moment and, therefore,
lost the chance. Well, it wasn't the last cartridge at the moment, I had only
four titles then.
--- In [email], jboatno4@...
wrote:
>
> You say you hold the 7th cartridge in your hand, which
one are you talking about?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless
BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
"patohd@..." <patohd@...>
> Sender: [email]
> Date:
Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:06:03
> To: <[email]>
>
Reply-To: [email]
>
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
> Hi,
the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the only
ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and hold in
my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the cartridges all
together somewhere in the Web.
> But I'd like to know if Timex released
a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a TC-2068 official
cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg),
but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
>
> --- In [email], "Jack
Boatwright" <jboatno4@> wrote:
> >
> > The VU-Calc,
VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not
released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered
vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development
when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type
exists.
> >
> > Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges
are at the bottom of this list.
> >
> > Jack
> >
30. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Jack Boatwright · Mon, 8 Aug 2011 18:57:
Rod,
A little bit of correction to your post...Rod Gowen is alive and well. I just spoke to him 2 or 3 weeks ago. He just wasn't making money any more selling TS-related items and has moved on to other things.
J Shepard got QL and some 2068 items from Rod G. and I got 1000 and 2068 items. I also bought the remaining FWD Computing stock from Frank Davis. Sad to hear that J has passed, I had not heard. He was a nice man.
The day Eric Johnson had his fatal accident, his wife called me, at his request, to come get his stuff (Eric's uncle worked for Timex Computer Corp). But the logistics were not favorable, he lived in Florida and I am in Oregon, and I couldn't make it work at that time. That's how Neil Cohen ended up with Eric's items. Eric's things include the chips needed to repair most of the Timex-related computer items.
I'm thinking that some day it would be good to get all 3 of these "collections" together under one roof. Perhaps the community would/could be better served that way.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod H
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Jack,
I don't have the Pinball cart in its box, just stacked on the shelf with the others, but I might have the empty box "in storage". All the instructions are in a binder and I probably have them...somewhere.
I might as well tell everyone now that I and Bruno Florindo recently arranged to have the TS gear stored with the late Jay Shepard brought to my place. Jay had previously received the remaining stock from RMG Enterprises after Rod Gowen passed on. Jay also received a few orphans from other TS users and of course had a large collection of TS items himself. In total there were 30 large boxes of TS-related items: TS1000 h/w and s/w, TS2068 h/w and s/w, QL h/w and s/w and even a few things for the Z88 including a nice working Z88. There are also 10 2068s and 4 QLs and even one lonely 1000. Bruno and I intend to offer these items to any TS user who wants the items and only ask for a small amount to reimburse our costs to truck the items to my home in Delta BC from Iowa. In the next day or so we will post a list of the items. Just to whet your appetite, as we're talking about TS2068 carts, there are about 35 carts of various titles amongst the items. Bruno and I have no intention of "making a profit" but only desire to give this stuff a good home rather than see it go to the landfill. Hopefully we will recover our costs. Stay tuned.
Rod
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:21:24 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Rod,
Does your Pinball cartridge have a box? I have this cart, and the instructions, but no box for it.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod H
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
I'm looking to acquire two TS2068 carts: Androids and Casino I. I can trade Flight Simulator, States&Capitals or Crazy Bugs. If anyone has a spare of either of these and wants any of the others let me know.
Rod
[email]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 22:14:33 +0000
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
That's right, the 7th cartridge was shown to me and I had it in my hand for a moment. It was the Pinball one. I had the opportunity to see and hold the cartridge, but couldn't buy it at the moment and, therefore, lost the chance. Well, it wasn't the last cartridge at the moment, I had only four titles then.
--- In [email], jboatno4@... wrote:
>
> You say you hold the 7th cartridge in your hand, which one are you talking about?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "patohd@..." <patohd@...>
> Sender: [email]
> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:06:03
> To: <[email]>
> Reply-To: [email]
> Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
> Hi, the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the only ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and hold in my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the cartridges all together somewhere in the Web.
> But I'd like to know if Timex released a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a TC-2068 official cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg), but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
>
> --- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@> wrote:
> >
> > The VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type exists.
> >
> > Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
> >
> > Jack
> >
31. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
patohd · Mon, 08 Aug 2011 22:14
That's right, the 7th cartridge was shown to me and I had it in my hand for a moment. It was the Pinball one. I had the opportunity to see and hold the cartridge, but couldn't buy it at the moment and, therefore, lost the chance. Well, it wasn't the last cartridge at the moment, I had only four titles then.
--- In [email], jboatno4@... wrote:
>
> You say you hold the 7th cartridge in your hand, which one are you talking about?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "patohd@..." <patohd@...>
> Sender: [email]
> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:06:03
> To: <[email]>
> Reply-To: [email]
> Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
> Hi, the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the only ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and hold in my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the cartridges all together somewhere in the Web.
> But I'd like to know if Timex released a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a TC-2068 official cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg), but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
>
> --- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@> wrote:
> >
> > The VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type exists.
> >
> > Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
> >
> > Jack
> >
32. RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Rod H · Mon, 8 Aug 2011 20:08:
Jack,
I met Rod Gowen on a number of occasions and am very pleased to hear that he hasn't gone on to the next adventure just yet. I was led to believe, or made a mistaken assumption, that the reason the RMG stock went to Jay was because Rod had passed. Glad it's not so.
I'm not sure about the 3 collections under one roof. I've got 30 boxes in my garage right now and my wife is not amused. In my view the more these items are dispersed to those keen to use and enjoy them, the better.
I've just finished recording the inventory and testing the hardware and tomorrow will post a listing of the items on hand.
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 18:57:27 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Rod,
A little bit of correction to your post...Rod Gowen
is alive and well. I just spoke to him 2 or 3 weeks ago. He just
wasn't making money any more selling TS-related items and has moved on to other
things.
J Shepard got QL and some 2068 items from
Rod G. and I got 1000 and 2068 items. I also bought the
remaining FWD Computing stock from Frank Davis. Sad to hear that J has
passed, I had not heard. He was a nice man.
The day Eric Johnson had his fatal accident,
his wife called me, at his request, to come get his stuff (Eric's uncle worked
for Timex Computer Corp). But the logistics were not favorable, he lived
in Florida and I am in Oregon, and I couldn't make it work at that time.
That's how Neil Cohen ended up with Eric's items. Eric's things
include the chips needed to repair most of the Timex-related computer
items.
I'm thinking that some day it would be good to get
all 3 of these "collections" together under one roof. Perhaps
the community would/could be better served that way.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From:
Rod H
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:37
PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
Jack,
I don't have the Pinball cart in its box, just
stacked on the shelf with the others, but I might have the empty box "in
storage". All the instructions are in a binder and I probably have
them...somewhere.
I might as well tell everyone now that I and Bruno
Florindo recently arranged to have the TS gear stored with the late Jay
Shepard brought to my place. Jay had previously received the remaining
stock from RMG Enterprises after Rod Gowen passed on. Jay also received
a few orphans from other TS users and of course had a large collection of TS
items himself. In total there were 30 large boxes of TS-related items:
TS1000 h/w and s/w, TS2068 h/w and s/w, QL h/w and s/w and even a few things
for the Z88 including a nice working Z88. There are also 10 2068s and 4 QLs
and even one lonely 1000. Bruno and I intend to offer these items to
any TS user who wants the items and only ask for a small amount to reimburse
our costs to truck the items to my home in Delta BC from Iowa. In the
next day or so we will post a list of the items. Just to whet your appetite,
as we're talking about TS2068 carts, there are about 35 carts of various
titles amongst the items. Bruno and I have no intention of "making a
profit" but only desire to give this stuff a good home rather than see it go
to the landfill. Hopefully we will recover our costs. Stay
tuned.
Rod
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug
2011 16:21:24 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working
Cartridge?
Rod,
Does your Pinball cartridge have a box? I
have this cart, and the instructions, but no box for it.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod H
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:39
PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
I'm looking to acquire two TS2068 carts: Androids and Casino
I. I can trade Flight Simulator, States&Capitals or Crazy
Bugs. If anyone has a spare of either of these and wants any of the
others let me know.
Rod
[email]
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011
22:14:33 +0000
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working
Cartridge?
That's right, the 7th cartridge was shown to me and I
had it in my hand for a moment. It was the Pinball one. I had the
opportunity to see and hold the cartridge, but couldn't buy it at the moment
and, therefore, lost the chance. Well, it wasn't the last cartridge at the
moment, I had only four titles then.
--- In [email],
jboatno4@... wrote:
>
> You say you hold the 7th cartridge in
your hand, which one are you talking about?
> Sent from my Verizon
Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: "patohd@..." <patohd@...>
> Sender: [email]
>
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:06:03
> To: <[email]>
>
Reply-To: [email]
>
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
> Hi,
the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the
only ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and
hold in my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the
cartridges all together somewhere in the Web.
> But I'd like to know
if Timex released a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a
TC-2068 official cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg),
but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
>
> --- In [email], "Jack
Boatwright" <jboatno4@> wrote:
> >
> > The VU-Calc,
VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not
released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered
vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development
when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type
exists.
> >
> > Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges
are at the bottom of this list.
> >
> > Jack
> >
33. RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Rod H · Mon, 8 Aug 2011 21:56:
Well, I'll be adding another 21 copies of Spelling I to the pile.
Dan Elliot did the occasional repair for me over the years and in fact cheerfully replaced a memory chip in a 1500 just a year or so ago. He might be available to do repairs if parts are still available.
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 20:38:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Rod - I have at least that many boxes. I have
a 12' x 20' shop devoted to Timex stuff and still can't display it all at one
time.
The plan was to disperse the items, but when there
are over 100 copies of one program (Spelling I for the 2068) it's
tough. I give this one away when I can. Most of the stuff I got from
Rod G. isn't high on most people's want list.
The chips that Eric had, to me, are the things we
need to preserve. Some of them cannot be replaced. We need a repair
person now, as well. Eric fixed some stuff for me a few times, and there
were a couple other fellows who did repair but I pretty sure they aren't
interested anymore. I think the unavailability of parts was part of
it.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From:
Rod H
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:08
PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
Jack,
I met Rod Gowen on a number of occasions and am very
pleased to hear that he hasn't gone on to the next adventure just yet. I was
led to believe, or made a mistaken assumption, that the reason the RMG stock
went to Jay was because Rod had passed. Glad it's not so.
I'm not
sure about the 3 collections under one roof. I've got 30 boxes in my
garage right now and my wife is not amused. In my view the more these
items are dispersed to those keen to use and enjoy them, the better.
I've just finished recording the inventory and testing the hardware
and tomorrow will post a listing of the items on hand.
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug
2011 18:57:27 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working
Cartridge?
Rod,
A little bit of correction to your post...Rod
Gowen is alive and well. I just spoke to him 2 or 3 weeks ago. He
just wasn't making money any more selling TS-related items and has moved on to
other things.
J Shepard got QL and some 2068 items
from Rod G. and I got 1000 and 2068 items. I also bought
the remaining FWD Computing stock from Frank Davis. Sad to hear that J
has passed, I had not heard. He was a nice man.
The day Eric Johnson had his fatal accident,
his wife called me, at his request, to come get his stuff (Eric's uncle worked
for Timex Computer Corp). But the logistics were not favorable, he lived
in Florida and I am in Oregon, and I couldn't make it work at that time.
That's how Neil Cohen ended up with Eric's items. Eric's things
include the chips needed to repair most of the Timex-related
computer items.
I'm thinking that some day it would be good to
get all 3 of these "collections" together under one
roof. Perhaps the community would/could be better served that
way.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod H
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:37
PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
Jack,
I don't have the Pinball cart in its box, just
stacked on the shelf with the others, but I might have the empty box "in
storage". All the instructions are in a binder and I probably have
them...somewhere.
I might as well tell everyone now that I and Bruno
Florindo recently arranged to have the TS gear stored with the late Jay
Shepard brought to my place. Jay had previously received the remaining
stock from RMG Enterprises after Rod Gowen passed on. Jay also
received a few orphans from other TS users and of course had a large
collection of TS items himself. In total there were 30 large boxes of
TS-related items: TS1000 h/w and s/w, TS2068 h/w and s/w, QL h/w and s/w and
even a few things for the Z88 including a nice working Z88. There are also
10 2068s and 4 QLs and even one lonely 1000. Bruno and I intend to
offer these items to any TS user who wants the items and only ask for a
small amount to reimburse our costs to truck the items to my home in Delta
BC from Iowa. In the next day or so we will post a list of the items.
Just to whet your appetite, as we're talking about TS2068 carts, there are
about 35 carts of various titles amongst the items. Bruno and I have
no intention of "making a profit" but only desire to give this stuff a good
home rather than see it go to the landfill. Hopefully we will recover
our costs. Stay tuned.
Rod
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug
2011 16:21:24 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working
Cartridge?
Rod,
Does your Pinball cartridge have a box? I
have this cart, and the instructions, but no box for it.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod H
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:39
PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a
non-working Cartridge?
I'm looking to acquire two TS2068 carts: Androids and Casino
I. I can trade Flight Simulator, States&Capitals or Crazy
Bugs. If anyone has a spare of either of these and wants any of the
others let me know.
Rod
[email]
To: [email]
From:
[email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug
2011 22:14:33 +0000
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working
Cartridge?
That's right, the 7th cartridge was shown to me and I
had it in my hand for a moment. It was the Pinball one. I had the
opportunity to see and hold the cartridge, but couldn't buy it at the
moment and, therefore, lost the chance. Well, it wasn't the last cartridge
at the moment, I had only four titles then.
--- In [email],
jboatno4@... wrote:
>
> You say you hold the 7th cartridge in
your hand, which one are you talking about?
> Sent from my Verizon
Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: "patohd@..." <patohd@...>
> Sender: [email]
>
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:06:03
> To: <[email]>
>
Reply-To: [email]
>
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
Hi, the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are
the only ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have
seen and hold in my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of
the cartridges all together somewhere in the Web.
> But I'd like to
know if Timex released a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068.
There is a TC-2068 official cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg),
but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
>
> --- In [email], "Jack
Boatwright" <jboatno4@> wrote:
> >
> > The
VU-Calc, VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although
announced, were not released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably
should be considered vaporware. Of those four I believe that only
Penetrator was in development when Timex left the computer business so
it's possible a that proto-type exists.
> >
> > Please
see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm
Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
> >
> >
Jack
> >
34. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
jboatno4 · Tue, 9 Aug 2011 14:11:
Ahhh, but is the tape version released by Timex or another vendor?
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-----Original Message-----
From: "[email]" <[email]>
Sender: [email]
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:01:02
To: <[email]>
Reply-To: [email]
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
--- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@...> wrote:
>
> Pinball seems to be a pretty rare cartridge. I've only seen one or two on eBay since 1996. And, it may not exist as a cassette-based program as I've never seen it on cassette. If anyone has this on cassette please let me know.
Both tape and cart versions are in the archive:
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=4000057
35. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Al Hartman · Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:48
Before making our own, we sold a small number of Timex Portugal Spectrum ROM cartridges by shaving off the raised plastic piece that kept them from fitting in the cartridge slot
We then potted the cartridge and added a label to cover the hole.
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1333/a3631.jpg
Al Hartman
--- In [email], "Johnny Red (Timex)" <timex.pt@...> wrote:
>
> Timex Computer Corp never released a Spectrum Emulator Cartridge, only Timex of Portugal did it with the TC2068 and as you should know it can't be used on a TS2068 because it doesn't fit (but it works).
>
> Another Cartridge for the 2068 is the TimeWord word processor also released by Timex of Portugal. It doesn't fit too on a TS2068.
>
> Johnny Red
36. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
cheveron · Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:01
--- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@...> wrote:
>
> Pinball seems to be a pretty rare cartridge. I've only seen one or two on eBay since 1996. And, it may not exist as a cassette-based program as I've never seen it on cassette. If anyone has this on cassette please let me know.
Both tape and cart versions are in the archive:
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=4000057
37. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Timex · Tue, 9 Aug 2011 21:00:
There is something I didn't know... TY Jarek
JR
On Aug 9, 2011, at 5:10 PM, yarek_com wrote:
> Hello!
>
> In matter of Spectrum Emulator cartridge, please note
> that Portuguese one in TC2068 was installed in Home bank,
> giving Spectrum compatibility at power-on. At least the
> Unipolbrit Komputer 2086 avalilable in Poland had the
> Spectrum ROM mapped into Home.
>
> But the TS2068 version is located in Dock and requires
> OUT 244,3. It is not easy to put the ROM into Home bank
> using cartridge slot of TS2068.
>
> Jarek Adamski
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
38. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
yarek_com · Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:10
Hello!
In matter of Spectrum Emulator cartridge, please note
that Portuguese one in TC2068 was installed in Home bank,
giving Spectrum compatibility at power-on. At least the
Unipolbrit Komputer 2086 avalilable in Poland had the
Spectrum ROM mapped into Home.
But the TS2068 version is located in Dock and requires
OUT 244,3. It is not easy to put the ROM into Home bank
using cartridge slot of TS2068.
Jarek Adamski
39. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Richard Blue · Tue, 9 Aug 2011 14:59:
I would love to have one of those 2068's. Thanks.
________________________________
From: Rod H <[email]>
To: [email]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Jack,
I don't have the Pinball cart in its box, just stacked on the shelf with the others, but I might have the empty box "in storage". All the instructions are in a binder and I probably have them...somewhere.
I might as well tell everyone now that I and Bruno Florindo recently arranged to have the TS gear stored with the late Jay Shepard brought to my place. Jay had previously received the remaining stock from RMG Enterprises after Rod Gowen passed on. Jay also received a few orphans from other TS users and of course had a large collection of TS items himself. In total there were 30 large boxes of TS-related items: TS1000 h/w and s/w, TS2068 h/w and s/w, QL h/w and s/w and even a few things for the Z88 including a nice working Z88. There are also 10 2068s and 4 QLs and even one lonely 1000. Bruno and I intend to offer these items to any TS user who wants the items and only ask for a small amount to reimburse our costs to truck the items to my home in Delta BC from Iowa. In the next day or so we will post a list of the items. Just to whet your appetite, as we're talking about TS2068 carts, there are about 35 carts of various titles amongst the
items. Bruno and I have no intention of "making a profit" but only desire to give this stuff a good home rather than see it go to the landfill. Hopefully we will recover our costs. Stay tuned.
Rod
________________________________
To: [email]
From: [email]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:21:24 -0700
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Rod,
Does your Pinball cartridge have a box? I
have this cart, and the instructions, but no box for it.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rod H
>To: [email]
>Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:39 PM
>Subject: RE: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
>
>I'm looking to acquire two TS2068 carts: Androids and Casino I. I can trade Flight Simulator, States&Capitals or Crazy Bugs. If anyone has a spare of either of these and wants any of the others let me know.
>
>Rod
>[email]
>
>
>
>________________________________
> To: [email]
>From: [email]
>Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011
22:14:33 +0000
>Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working
Cartridge?
>
>
>That's right, the 7th cartridge was shown to me and I had it in my hand for a moment. It was the Pinball one. I had the opportunity to see and hold the cartridge, but couldn't buy it at the moment and, therefore, lost the chance. Well, it wasn't the last cartridge at the moment, I had only four titles then.
>
>--- In [email], jboatno4@... wrote:
>>
>> You say you hold the 7th cartridge in your hand, which
one are you talking about?
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless
BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
"patohd@..." <patohd@...>
>> Sender: [email]
>> Date:
Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:06:03
>> To: <[email]>
>>
Reply-To: [email]
>>
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>>
>> Hi,
the seven cartridges listed as released at the bottom of the list are the only
ones I can tell for sure that exist (I have six and also have seen and hold in
my hand the seventh); even more, I've seen a picture of the cartridges all
together somewhere in the Web.
>> But I'd like to know if Timex released
a Spectrum Emulator cartridge for the TS-2068. There is a TC-2068 official
cartridge (http://www.timexsinclair.org/peripherals/SpectrumRom/SpectrumEmulatorCart-Production.jpg), but I didn´t see it for the TS. In fact, I use a non-official one.
>>
>> --- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@> wrote:
>> >
>> > The VU-Calc,
VU-File, Sword Fight and Penetrator cartridges, although announced, were not
released for sale by Timex Computer Corp. and probably should be considered
vaporware. Of those four I believe that only Penetrator was in development
when Timex left the computer business so it's possible a that proto-type
exists.
>> >
>> > Please see the 2068 software list at http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/ts2068.htm Cartridges are at the bottom of this list.
>> >
>> > Jack
>> >
>
>
>
>
40. Re: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
Jack Boatwright · Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:36
Andrew - this may be simply semantics but the program at the link listed below is named "ProPinball". As you can see from my link Timex called its program simply "Pinball", http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/pinbcart.jpg (this is a scan of the front of Timex's "Pinball" cartridge instruction booklet that I did a few years ago). I have no doubt that these are the same program, originally created for the Spectrum. A good share of Timex's programs were originally Spectrum programs re-licensed and adapted for the 2068.
That Timex's "Pinball" exists as a cartridge is not debatable, I own one. If there is truly a tape version of this program released by Timex I would like to see a photo or scan of at least one of the following: the tape, the cassette inlay, the instructions, or the box. Until I see one of these I will remain skeptical that the tape version of Timex-released "Pinball" exists.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: [email]
To: [email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:01 AM
Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
--- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@...> wrote:
>
> Pinball seems to be a pretty rare cartridge. I've only seen one or two on eBay since 1996. And, it may not exist as a cassette-based program as I've never seen it on cassette. If anyone has this on cassette please let me know.
Both tape and cart versions are in the archive:
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=4000057
41. Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
cheveron · Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:42
Hi Jack,
It's semantics in one sense. Timex seem to have had a habit of putting a different title on the box from the one within the game itself. Swordfight at Midnight becomes Swordfight and so on. Dumbing down for the US market I guess. I know what you mean about wanting evidence for a Timex tape release. It's difficult to be sure of the status of a lot of the Timex titles that were essentially Spectrum software that ran without modification.
-Andrew
> Andrew - this may be simply semantics but the program at the link listed below is named "ProPinball". As you can see from my link Timex called its program simply "Pinball", http://www.worldofspectrum.org/timex/pinbcart.jpg (this is a scan of the front of Timex's "Pinball" cartridge instruction booklet that I did a few years ago). I have no doubt that these are the same program, originally created for the Spectrum. A good share of Timex's programs were originally Spectrum programs re-licensed and adapted for the 2068.
>
> That Timex's "Pinball" exists as a cartridge is not debatable, I own one. If there is truly a tape version of this program released by Timex I would like to see a photo or scan of at least one of the following: the tape, the cassette inlay, the instructions, or the box. Until I see one of these I will remain skeptical that the tape version of Timex-released "Pinball" exists.
>
> Jack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cheveron@...
> To: [email]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:01 AM
> Subject: [ts2068] Re: Test for a non-working Cartridge?
>
>
>
> --- In [email], "Jack Boatwright" <jboatno4@> wrote:
> >
> > Pinball seems to be a pretty rare cartridge. I've only seen one or two on eBay since 1996. And, it may not exist as a cassette-based program as I've never seen it on cassette. If anyone has this on cassette please let me know.
>
> Both tape and cart versions are in the archive:
>
> http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=4000057
>