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Westridge TS-2050 Modem

12 messages · 2002-06-12 → 2002-09-16 · Yahoo Group era · View archive on archive.org

Participants: Robert "The R.A.T." Allen Turner, joe schmoe, Louis Florit, Don Dindang, Senen Racki, Johnny Red, William McBrine, yarek_com, indygolunaria

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1. Westridge TS-2050 Modem

Robert "The R.A.T." Allen Turner · Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:00

Does anyone know where I may find the specifications for the Timex /
Westridge 2050 Modem - I want to build a serial port that is compatible
with it. Also, does anyone know where I can obtain the cassette software
that came with this modem as well as the byte-back modem software/
Thanks - Rob

2. Re: [ts2068] Westridge TS-2050 Modem

Louis Florit · Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:15

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Robert "The R.A.T." Allen Turner wrote:

> Does anyone know where I may find the specifications for the Timex /
> Westridge 2050 Modem - I want to build a serial port that is compatible
> with it. Also, does anyone know where I can obtain the cassette software
> that came with this modem as well as the byte-back modem software/
> Thanks - Rob

Hey Rob; I've got a copy of the instructions to convert a Westridge into a 
serial device here:
http://www.timexsinclair.org/2068/code/WC2050SerialConversionHack/

However, I don't have the schematic for the modem itself.  This would be a 
nice addition to the website if anyone has it available.

I have the original software on tape, it did load once upon a time. I have 
to make a trip to storage and could get it out for you if you like.  I 
don't have 'Byte-Back' however, but another aftermarket one.  Can't 
remmember its name now. I wonder if anyone has a .TAP of it available;  I 
never did get around to creating the TS2068 .TAP Archive I wanted...

Louis

3. Re: [ts2068] Westridge TS-2050 Modem

Robert "The R.A.T." Allen Turner · Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:47

I was looking at your site when the email came in. If I had the memory
map for the 2050 modem, I could develop a schematic for a compatible
serial port - obviously, the schematic would not be the same as the
2050, but would work the same. I just need some of the various software
to test it once completed. Perhaps someone can provide me a complete
memory map. Anyone having any information that might be useful in this
endeavor may email it to me as an attachment, if you wish. I can accept
attachments of any size (have received over 100Mb email attachments
recently). I plan to develop an expansion unit that will allow a 16-bit
ISA multi-IO card to be attached to the TS-2068, if there is any
interest in such a thing. This would give us 2 serial ports, parallel
port, joystick/MIDI port, IDE and Floppy controllers. Actually getting
software developed to drive the card will be the biggest obstacle. Also
plan to develop a 6809 co-processor card to allow the TS-2068 to run
OS-9 Level II and FLEX.
Later.. Rob

Louis Florit wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Robert "The R.A.T." Allen Turner wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know where I may find the specifications for the Timex /
> > Westridge 2050 Modem - I want to build a serial port that is
> compatible
> > with it. Also, does anyone know where I can obtain the cassette
> software
> > that came with this modem as well as the byte-back modem software/
> > Thanks - Rob
> 
> Hey Rob; I've got a copy of the instructions to convert a Westridge
> into a
> serial device here:
> http://www.timexsinclair.org/2068/code/WC2050SerialConversionHack/
> 
> However, I don't have the schematic for the modem itself.  This would
> be a
> nice addition to the website if anyone has it available.
> 
> I have the original software on tape, it did load once upon a time. I
> have
> to make a trip to storage and could get it out for you if you like.  I
> 
> don't have 'Byte-Back' however, but another aftermarket one.  Can't
> remmember its name now. I wonder if anyone has a .TAP of it
> available;  I
> never did get around to creating the TS2068 .TAP Archive I wanted...
> 
> Louis
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> [email]
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

4. Re: [ts2068] Westridge TS-2050 Modem

Senen Racki · Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:16

I'm pretty sure I have the schematic for the 2050, but it's currently packed
in one of many boxes awaiting a move to a new residence.  I'll see if I can
dig it out.

Senen.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis Florit" <[email]>
To: <[email]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [ts2068] Westridge TS-2050 Modem


> On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Robert "The R.A.T." Allen Turner wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know where I may find the specifications for the Timex /
> > Westridge 2050 Modem - I want to build a serial port that is compatible
> > with it. Also, does anyone know where I can obtain the cassette software
> > that came with this modem as well as the byte-back modem software/
> > Thanks - Rob
>
> Hey Rob; I've got a copy of the instructions to convert a Westridge into a
> serial device here:
> http://www.timexsinclair.org/2068/code/WC2050SerialConversionHack/
>
> However, I don't have the schematic for the modem itself.  This would be a
> nice addition to the website if anyone has it available.
>
> I have the original software on tape, it did load once upon a time. I have
> to make a trip to storage and could get it out for you if you like.  I
> don't have 'Byte-Back' however, but another aftermarket one.  Can't
> remmember its name now. I wonder if anyone has a .TAP of it available;  I
> never did get around to creating the TS2068 .TAP Archive I wanted...
>
> Louis
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> [email]
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

5. Re: [ts2068] Westridge TS-2050 Modem

Don Dindang · Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:30

Hi,

I just see the byte-back modem was list on ebay last
2-3 weeks. The item include software and schematic.
You may chek who won this item and ask for a copy.

kmitl22

--- Louis Florit <[email]> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Robert "The R.A.T." Allen
> Turner wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know where I may find the
> specifications for the Timex /
> > Westridge 2050 Modem - I want to build a serial
> port that is compatible
> > with it. Also, does anyone know where I can obtain
> the cassette software
> > that came with this modem as well as the byte-back
> modem software/
> > Thanks - Rob
> 
> Hey Rob; I've got a copy of the instructions to
> convert a Westridge into a 
> serial device here:
>
http://www.timexsinclair.org/2068/code/WC2050SerialConversionHack/
> 
> However, I don't have the schematic for the modem
> itself.  This would be a 
> nice addition to the website if anyone has it
> available.
> 
> I have the original software on tape, it did load
> once upon a time. I have 
> to make a trip to storage and could get it out for
> you if you like.  I 
> don't have 'Byte-Back' however, but another
> aftermarket one.  Can't 
> remmember its name now. I wonder if anyone has a
> .TAP of it available;  I 
> never did get around to creating the TS2068 .TAP
> Archive I wanted...
> 
> Louis
> 
> 
> 


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6. Re: [ts2068] Westridge TS-2050 Modem

Johnny Red · Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:00

I have a TAP of Smart Terminal program for TS2068 and TS2050 in my website.

Search it in the download pages.

www.timex.pt.vu

Johnny Red, Portugal

on 06/12/2002 17:00, Robert "The R.A.T." Allen Turner at
[email] wrote:

> Does anyone know where I may find the specifications for the Timex /
> Westridge 2050 Modem - I want to build a serial port that is compatible
> with it. Also, does anyone know where I can obtain the cassette software
> that came with this modem as well as the byte-back modem software/
> Thanks - Rob
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> [email]
> 
> 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
>

7. Re: [ts2068] Westridge TS-2050 Modem

William McBrine · Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:17

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Robert "The R.A.T." Allen Turner wrote:

> I plan to develop an expansion unit that will allow a 16-bit ISA
> multi-IO card to be attached to the TS-2068, if there is any interest
> in such a thing.

Cool. How much do you think it would cost? And, would it have more
computing power than the 2068 itself? ;-)

I do like the idea, but the thing about adding modern capabilities to
outdated equipment is, it reaches a point of diminishing returns pretty
quickly. At some point, it probably makes more sense just to use an
emulator on a nice, fast, new system. (I'm not sure the 2068 is at that
point, given the current state of emulation; but the Spectrum is.)

> Also plan to develop a 6809 co-processor card to allow the TS-2068 to
> run OS-9 Level II and FLEX.

Um, isn't that what CoCos are for?

I actually have a few CoCos, with 64K (or more) and disk drives, but I've
never run OS-9. I'd like to, but I can't find it anywhere.

-- 
William McBrine <[email]>

8. Re: [ts2068] Westridge TS-2050 Modem

Robert "The R.A.T." Allen Turner · Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:51

Yep - I am developing the I/O Card interface to the CoCo first and will
then do the TS-2068 version. I don't know what it will cost as I
probably won't market it - It'll be a hobby project with the plans
available for anyone to build, unless there is someone who wants to
market the thing. I just like to build this stuff. I actually have
someone who wants to market the CoCo interface for me. Yes, CoCo's are
for Flex and OS-9 among other things. What I have in mind for the 2068
is a small 6809 computer with the TS-2068 acting as a terminal providing
the keyboard and display. Even tho' the 6809 is obsolete it is still
available cheaply for this project. Look around here
ftp://os9archive.rtsi.com/ for OS-9 disk images - they may be there but
I haven't looked. I just bought 3 TS-2068's and am anxious to build some
hardware for them....

William McBrine wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Robert "The R.A.T." Allen Turner wrote:
> 
> > I plan to develop an expansion unit that will allow a 16-bit ISA
> > multi-IO card to be attached to the TS-2068, if there is any
> interest
> > in such a thing.
> 
> Cool. How much do you think it would cost? And, would it have more
> computing power than the 2068 itself? ;-)
> 
> I do like the idea, but the thing about adding modern capabilities to
> outdated equipment is, it reaches a point of diminishing returns
> pretty
> quickly. At some point, it probably makes more sense just to use an
> emulator on a nice, fast, new system. (I'm not sure the 2068 is at
> that
> point, given the current state of emulation; but the Spectrum is.)
> 
> > Also plan to develop a 6809 co-processor card to allow the TS-2068
> to
> > run OS-9 Level II and FLEX.
> 
> Um, isn't that what CoCos are for?
> 
> I actually have a few CoCos, with 64K (or more) and disk drives, but
> I've
> never run OS-9. I'd like to, but I can't find it anywhere.
> 
> --
> William McBrine <[email]>
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> [email]
> 
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9. Re: Westridge TS-2050 Modem

yarek_com · Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:53

Hi!

--- In ts2068@y..., "Robert \"The R.A.T.\" Allen Turner" 
<binarysystems@e...> wrote:
> I plan to develop an expansion unit that will allow a
> 16-bit ISA multi-IO card to be attached to the TS-2068,
> if there is any interest in such a thing.
I made the connection of ISA card, in 8-bit mode. The 
16-bit mode is only need for HDD interface. And this is
much complicated to make it work.

> This would give us 2 serial ports, parallel port,
> joystick/MIDI port, IDE and Floppy controllers.
In my idea the serial ports are at addresses #050..#057
(second #150..#157), pararell at #058..#05A. (The hight
byte is device unit.) The FDC is in ports #70..#7F.

For the IDE I have separate mutiplekser, so ports are
at addresses #B0..#B7, #BE, #BF. (The #B0..#B3 area is
reserved for the RTC.)

The patch for Warajevo makes secondary HDD available in
the same ports.

>> Hey Rob; I've got a copy of the instructions to
>> convert a Westridge into a serial device here:
>> http://www.timexsinclair.org/...
>> However, I don't have the schematic for the modem itself.
>> This would be a nice addition to the website if anyone
>> has it available.
It looks like 8251 USART device, in ports #73 and #77, fixed
at 1200bps (well, you could connect the PC Mouse there).

However, it is in conflict with my idea of FDC (#77 port). :)

Yarek

10. Re: [ts2068] Re: Westridge TS-2050 Modem

joe schmoe · Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:04

there seems to be a problem with the link for the
instructions to build the rs 232 seriel port from a
westridge modem board. Could you double check the link
please. It is exactly what I have been searching for,
those instructions, as I have at least three of the
Westridge boards. I do know someone with six or so of them.

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11. Re: [ts2068] Re: Westridge TS-2050 Modem

joe schmoe · Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:24

got it that time ...thanks...it works......i have been
looking for that article for years.....
neil
central florida timex/sinclair users group
we aint dead yet!!!

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12. Re: Westridge TS-2050 Modem

indygolunaria · Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:34

This is the link, seems to work for me, could you tell me where its
found broken?

http://www.timexsinclair.org/2068/code/WC2050SerialConversionHack/

L

--- In ts2068@y..., joe schmoe <pxx1_2000_32724@y...> wrote:
> there seems to be a problem with the link for the
> instructions to build the rs 232 seriel port from a
> westridge modem board. Could you double check the link
> please. It is exactly what I have been searching for,
> those instructions, as I have at least three of the
> Westridge boards. I do know someone with six or so of them.
> 
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